OT Jindal - Palin '12

What a hoot a Jindal - Palin ticket in '12 would be. Talk
about an entertaining train wreck, it would be absolutely
hilarious. Kind of a Marx Brothers farcical comedy set in
a deep south trailer park. LOL ! Jindal's rebuttal last
night was so absurd to the point of incredulity. Here's
what the *conservative GOP* commentator David Brooks had
to say:

LEHRER: How well did he do?


BROOKS: Not so well. You know, I think Bobby Jindal is a very promising
politician, and I opposed the stimulus package - I thought it was poorly
drafted - but to come up at this moment in history with a stale,
"government is the problem...we can't trust the government"...it's just
a disaster for the Republican Party. The country is in a panic, now.
They may not like the way the Congress passed the stimulus bill. The
idea that government is going to have no role in this...in a moment
where only the Federal government is big enough to do stuff...to just
ignore all that and say government's the problem...corruption, earmarks,
wasteful spending - it's just a form of nihilism. It's just not where
the country is, it's not where the future of the country is. There's an
intra-Republican debate: some people say the Republican party lost its
way because it got too moderate, some people say they got too weird or
too conservative. He thinks they got too moderate, and he's making that
case. I think it's insane. I think it's a disaster for the party. I just
think it's unfortunate right now.

Insane nihilism, yeah that sounds about right. I pity the poor
folks of Louisiana who have this silly goofus for a governor
and living in Illinois I know a thing or two about goofus governors.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
I pity the poor
folks of Louisiana who have this silly goofus for a governor
and living in Illinois I know a thing or two about goofus governors.

at least you're honest enough to notice that you REALLY shouldn't be casting
stones at other state's governors.....
Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks. It will be
interesting to see how he fares at dealing with an upcoming budget shortfall
in his home state, and the idea of some of the Palin wing cozying up to an
Indian-American Catholic seems dubious, at best.
Tom

On Feb 25, 2:27*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message

...

I pity the poor
folks of Louisiana who have this silly goofus for a governor
and living in Illinois I know a thing or two about goofus governors.

at least you're honest enough to notice that you REALLY shouldn't be casting
stones at other state's governors.....
Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks. It will be
interesting to see how he fares at dealing with an upcoming budget shortfall
in his home state, and the idea of some of the Palin wing cozying up to an
Indian-American Catholic seems dubious, at best.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

My take differs.
First, my guess is that Jindal is about as silly as the ideas he
presents. It wasn't just that smirking look of his; it was the ideas
he presented in the face of the national and world situation. His
IDEAS show that at best he is willing to look like a fool, to impress
the milling malignant base of his party. It was like a public self
mutilation by an Ottoman functionary.

Second, as much as I am amazed at the clownishness of the Palinites, I
don't think the ethnic/religious stuff is as big a deal in lots of the
country, as it might be back East, the Midwest, and some of the South.
My impression is that mixed race, cross ethnic and mixed religion
families/situations/etc., are more common in the West and Alaska and
the Pacific. I can think of only a minority of families I know that do
not have at least one of these crosses going on if I think about it,
including my own extended family. And I have always understood that
Louisiana has a long history of significant mulattoes, and its own
special way of tolerating all kinds of mixes. If anything, I think
Jindal's "hybrid" affect could be a big plus.

Dave

On Feb 25, 5:27*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote
Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks.

I really hope he isn't that bad. As much as I enjoy the schadenfreude
of the GOP searching so desperately for their next standard bearer,
that was one of the most god-awful rebuttal speeces I've ever seen,
both in style and substance. Inasmuch as it's the first time I've
taken a serious look at Jindal, the direct comparison to President
Obama's confidence, gravitas, style, and oratory couldn't have been
more striking, and probably left an unfortunate first impression on
many. He seemed so far out of his league I almost felt sorry for
him.

Frankly, I was most troubled by his enthusiastic willingness to
outright lie to the nation in his first big national spotlight. More
than a bit disturbing to me. He has 2.5 years, maybe 3 to polish that
act if he's going to make a serious run at POTUS, but he has a long
way to go if that was any indication. He needs style, substance,
integrity, and better speech writers and fact checkers.

So yeah, Jindal/Palin '12 sounds good to me.

On Feb 26, 9:20*am, rb608 wrote:
On Feb 25, 5:27*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote

Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks.

I really hope he isn't that bad. *As much as I enjoy the schadenfreude
of the GOP searching so desperately for their next standard bearer,
that was one of the most god-awful rebuttal speeces I've ever seen,
both in style and substance. *Inasmuch as it's the first time I've
taken a serious look at Jindal, the direct comparison to President
Obama's confidence, gravitas, style, and oratory couldn't have been
more striking, and probably left an unfortunate first impression on
many. *He seemed so far out of his league I almost felt sorry for
him.

Frankly, I was most troubled by his enthusiastic willingness to
outright lie to the nation in his first big national spotlight. *More
than a bit disturbing to me. *He has 2.5 years, maybe 3 to polish that
act if he's going to make a serious run at POTUS, but he has a long
way to go if that was any indication. *He needs style, substance,
integrity, and better speech writers and fact checkers.

So yeah, Jindal/Palin '12 sounds good to me.

The R's would stand a better chance with Palin/Jindal. If Jindal is,
as described, "the best and brightest of the young Republicans", it
looks like I'll be voting for Obama again in 2012.

On Feb 26, 1:08*pm, george9219 wrote:
The R's would stand a better chance with Palin/Jindal. If Jindal is,
as described, "the best and brightest of the young Republicans", it
looks like I'll be voting for Obama again in 2012.

I don't follow the rising stars in the GOP, so I don't know if the
hype over Jindal is justified or lipstick on a pig (to coin a
phrase). His speech Tuesday was poorly conceived and not terribly
well presented; but nothing about it gave me the impression that
Jindal was necessarily unintelligent. Kinda goofy and obviously
willing to sell talking points in lieu of actual facts, but not
stupid. I kept remarking to SWMBO, "Wow, this guy is awful;" but at
least he's on the radar screen. (Jeez, I can't believe we're even
speculating about '12 already, but I don't see Palin even lasting past
breakfast in the primaries.)

Joe F.

DaveS wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I pity the poor
folks of Louisiana who have this silly goofus for a governor
and living in Illinois I know a thing or two about goofus governors.
at least you're honest enough to notice that you REALLY shouldn't be casting
stones at other state's governors.....
Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks. It will be
interesting to see how he fares at dealing with an upcoming budget shortfall
in his home state, and the idea of some of the Palin wing cozying up to an
Indian-American Catholic seems dubious, at best.

My take differs.
First, my guess is that Jindal is about as silly as the ideas he
presents. It wasn't just that smirking look of his; it was the ideas
he presented in the face of the national and world situation. His
IDEAS show that at best he is willing to look like a fool, to impress
the milling malignant base of his party. It was like a public self
mutilation by an Ottoman functionary. ...

Exactly. Either the guy is dumber than a box of rocks and really
believes that old Reaganista bromide about the government being
the problem or he's just another ruthless, soulless practitioner
of the A****er GOP's southern strategy. The guy *was* a Rhodes
scholar so my money is on the latter.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Feb 26, 4:41*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
DaveS wrote:
"Tom Littleton" *wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I pity the poor
folks of Louisiana who have this silly goofus for a governor
and living in Illinois I know a thing or two about goofus governors.
at least you're honest enough to notice that you REALLY shouldn't be casting
stones at other state's governors.....
Still, Jindal got thrown to the wolves by his own party last night. He's not
as dim as that presentation came off, as noted by Brooks. It will be
interesting to see how he fares at dealing with an upcoming budget shortfall
in his home state, and the idea of some of the Palin wing cozying up to an
Indian-American Catholic seems dubious, at best.

My take differs.
First, my guess is that Jindal is about as silly as the ideas he
presents. It wasn't just that smirking look of his; it was the ideas
he presented in the face of the national and world situation. His
IDEAS show that at best he is willing to look like a fool, to impress
the milling malignant base of his party. It was like a public self
mutilation by an Ottoman functionary. ...

Exactly. Either the guy is dumber than a box of rocks and really
believes that old Reaganista bromide about the government being
the problem or he's just another ruthless, soulless practitioner
of the A****er GOP's southern strategy. The guy *was* a Rhodes
scholar so my money is on the latter.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Never said the guy was stupid, just not very effective, and far from
presidential. I saw him with one of the talking heads on Sunday
morning, and I couldn't believe that he was being touted as candidate
in 2012. Just spewing the same tired policies that haven't worked. As
to his being a Rhodes Scholar...all that thar book learnin' don't
always translate into street smarts.