Penn's creek zit droppers

Tom [or anyone] I have a problem..Cannot see those little yellow zit flies
you furnished me when I attended the Rainout Clave a couple of years ago.
[ think you called the sulfas] So I want to pretie them onto leaders to use
as droopers --questions

What big fly should I use as indicator?
What size leader for dropper--how long?
Any suggestions for transporting fly-leader-zit fly around in my vest
without crushing flies?
What knot do I use on to tie leader to bend of hook?

Is all this worth the trouble--will your fish take droppers? should I just
trade three zit flies for one I can see on the water?
Thanks anyone - Joe McIntosh

Joe asks for help from:
Tom [or anyone]
in full clavemeister mode......

I have a problem.
let me go open a beer......now, I'm ready.


Cannot see those little yellow zit flies
you furnished me when I attended the Rainout Clave a couple of years ago.
Those are sulfurs, you are probably going to have to fish them, somehow......


So I want to pretie them onto leaders to use
as droopers
those would be droppers....droopers are what you get at that club in Millheim.
Now,
the way I tie droppers in by leaving knot tags off the last blood knot in the
leader, but you want to run about 18-20 inches of leader from indicator fly to
sulfurs.


What big fly should I use as indicator?
Patriot dry, size 12(10 in heavy currents), they are bright,high-floating, and
Penn's fish seem to like them.


What size leader for dropper--how long?
18-20 inches of 5x to the sulfur.

Any suggestions for transporting fly-leader-zit fly around in my vest
without crushing flies?
I wouldn't have a clue on that one....perhaps someone on ROFF knows.


What knot do I use on to tie leader to bend of hook?
I'll leave this one to the experts, as well.


should I just
trade three zit flies for one I can see on the water?
it should be a sellers market for Sulfurs by about Tuesday evening....

looking forward to seeing you,
Tom

bring some rare breed wild turkey, knob creek will do almost as well,
and i'll show you all you need to know about tying on a dropper. tom's
method is ok if you like tying blood knots and can cipher the tag
end...but, you lose the tag pretty quickly and you'll be practicing a
lot of blood knot work. improved clinch on the bend of the hook is
easiest and i think works the best. sometimes the drift on the dropper
is a bit difficult. but, tangles less for me. ...

went fishing yesterday at cape lookout. no spanish yet, albies have
moved on, but the blues were hungry. jim engaged in an interesting
"chumming" method while trolling. seems it requires country ham, eggs,
grits, etc. ... i think a lacourse breakfast could be invaluable in the
development of this particular form of chumming, if you get my drift.
hooked 3 blues while jim was "spreading" chum.

jeff (droopers? i thought they closed that place?)

Tom Littleton wrote:

Joe asks for help from:

Tom [or anyone]

in full clavemeister mode......


I have a problem.

let me go open a beer......now, I'm ready.



Cannot see those little yellow zit flies
you furnished me when I attended the Rainout Clave a couple of years ago.

Those are sulfurs, you are probably going to have to fish them, somehow......



So I want to pretie them onto leaders to use
as droopers

those would be droppers....droopers are what you get at that club in Millheim.
Now,
the way I tie droppers in by leaving knot tags off the last blood knot in the
leader, but you want to run about 18-20 inches of leader from indicator fly to
sulfurs.



What big fly should I use as indicator?

Patriot dry, size 12(10 in heavy currents), they are bright,high-floating, and
Penn's fish seem to like them.



What size leader for dropper--how long?

18-20 inches of 5x to the sulfur.


Any suggestions for transporting fly-leader-zit fly around in my vest
without crushing flies?

I wouldn't have a clue on that one....perhaps someone on ROFF knows.



What knot do I use on to tie leader to bend of hook?

I'll leave this one to the experts, as well.



should I just
trade three zit flies for one I can see on the water?

it should be a sellers market for Sulfurs by about Tuesday evening....

looking forward to seeing you,
Tom

hmmm... isn't "hot chumming" illegal in pamlico sound? btw, is the
inestimable mr. roberts gonna make an appearance in the blue ridge?

danl

and i have a couple of special flies tied just for you, jeffie. i think they
outta work just fine....




"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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went fishing yesterday at cape lookout. no spanish yet, albies have
moved on, but the blues were hungry. jim engaged in an interesting
"chumming" method while trolling. seems it requires country ham, eggs,
grits, etc. ... i think a lacourse breakfast could be invaluable in the
development of this particular form of chumming, if you get my drift.
hooked 3 blues while jim was "spreading" chum.

jeff (droopers? i thought they closed that place?)

Danl wrote:

hmmm... isn't "hot chumming" illegal in pamlico sound?

we weren't in the sound...out in the ocean off shackleford banks and
cape lookout. ...but it's those thru hull heads that are illegal.
sphincter winking at the ocean or pamlico sound over the gunwale of a 17
foot bay boat sloshing in some sizeable swells, while foolish, impolite
in company, and lacking in respect for any ecosystem, isn't regulated as
far as i know. well, unless you do it intentionally in view of a crowd,
i guess. the bluefish didn't seem to mind though.

btw, is the
inestimable mr. roberts gonna make an appearance in the blue ridge?


i've mentioned it. i thought he might accompany wayno. joe and i are
heading up on the 12th...should be there by mid-day. we will be leaving
from there on the 14th for penns. he could get a ride with us up to
g'boro or morganton, but would need a ride back. i doubt he's arranged
his court schedule. give him a call... 252-321-8463 today or
252-758-9947 tomorrow (after 9 am est).

danl

and i have a couple of special flies tied just for you, jeffie. i think they
outta work just fine....

hmmm... lookin forward to seein them...i think. we'll save them for our
stroll down greentown trail.

jeff




"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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went fishing yesterday at cape lookout. no spanish yet, albies have
moved on, but the blues were hungry. jim engaged in an interesting
"chumming" method while trolling. seems it requires country ham, eggs,
grits, etc. ... i think a lacourse breakfast could be invaluable in the
development of this particular form of chumming, if you get my drift.
hooked 3 blues while jim was "spreading" chum.

jeff (droopers? i thought they closed that place?)