wiggle nymphs

I'm starting to tie up a stock for next year and on the list are Brown Drake
look-a-likes.

Both my notes and my reference books make a "wiggle" nymph tied on two hooks
with a hinge in the middle seem like a good idea. I've never fished such
a tie and wonder ... are they really worth the effort or are they just
another sounds good and looks good in the vise but doesn't fish that well,
tie ...

I only get a very few days a year to try Brown Drake ties and I'm fairly
happy with my "emerger" but would like to try and extend this last light
hatch by fishing a nymph before the fish start surface feeding .... I've had
good luck with this on the somewhat similar Hex hatch, but have never tried
a wiggling fly

All suggestions and shared experiences, appreciated

Larry L wrote:

Both my notes and my reference books make a "wiggle" nymph tied on two hooks
with a hinge in the middle seem like a good idea.

I experimented with them a bunch several years ago on larger nymphs (green
drakes, October caddis and stoneflies).

I've never fished such
a tie and wonder ... are they really worth the effort

no.

or are they just
another sounds good and looks good in the vise but doesn't fish that well,
tie ...

yes.

I think segmented leech patterns for winter steelhead MAY be slightly more
effective than the non-segmented ones, but since these flies are fished
right on the bottom, and therefore often hung up and lost, I don't think
the extra time, effort and cost are worth it in the end.

JR

Larry L. writes:

I'm starting to tie up a stock for next year and on the list are Brown Drake
look-a-likes.

Both my notes and my reference books make a "wiggle" nymph tied on two hooks
with a hinge in the middle seem like a good idea. I've never fished such
a tie and wonder ... are they really worth the effort or are they just
another sounds good and looks good in the vise but doesn't fish that well,
tie ...

I only get a very few days a year to try Brown Drake ties and I'm fairly
happy with my "emerger" but would like to try and extend this last light
hatch by fishing a nymph before the fish start surface feeding .... I've had
good luck with this on the somewhat similar Hex hatch, but have never tried
a wiggling fly

All suggestions and shared experiences, appreciated

I experimented with them several years ago, and came to the conclusion that
they are nothing more than an unsuccessful gimick.

Think small with no hinges.

"Larry L" wrote in message
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I'm starting to tie up a stock for next year and on the list are Brown
Drake
look-a-likes.

Both my notes and my reference books make a "wiggle" nymph tied on two
hooks
with a hinge in the middle seem like a good idea. I've never fished
such
a tie and wonder ... are they really worth the effort or are they just
another sounds good and looks good in the vise but doesn't fish that well,
tie ...

I only get a very few days a year to try Brown Drake ties and I'm fairly
happy with my "emerger" but would like to try and extend this last light
hatch by fishing a nymph before the fish start surface feeding .... I've
had
good luck with this on the somewhat similar Hex hatch, but have never
tried
a wiggling fly


the only hex and drake nymph patterns I have fished are the "wiggle" type.
They are very useful bottom fished on deep holes in sandy areas on the
streams in northern michigan. On those waters they are very much worth the
effort.

"Larry L" wrote

FWIW, I tied up several wiggle models and "fished" them in the irrigation
canel on the property to watch the action.

I'm now convinced that they are NOT worth the extra tying effort aned
expense ...I believe that 99% of any trout that looked at a wiggle tie and
thought "yummy, gotta eat that" would feel the same about a single hook tie
using the same materials and construction ... there just isn't that much
difference, in fact the single hook looks more "real" to my, admittedly
non-trout, eyes

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Larry L" wrote

FWIW, I tied up several wiggle models and "fished" them in the irrigation
canel on the property to watch the action.

I'm now convinced that they are NOT worth the extra tying effort aned
expense ...I believe that 99% of any trout that looked at a wiggle tie and
thought "yummy, gotta eat that" would feel the same about a single hook
tie using the same materials and construction ... there just isn't that
much difference, in fact the single hook looks more "real" to my,
admittedly non-trout, eyes

I figured the wiggle nymph was just someones effort at creating a new
gimmick. With that in mind, I figured one out, too. Why not tie a bunch of
flies that have a 'tube fly' upper, and a regular hook fly lower. When you
tie on the fly, you thread the tippet through the upper tube part, then tie
it onto the hook eye. That would give you a two-part fly that might have
some interesting motion, and you could even mix and match colors/patterns
for an interesting effect. It might work especially well for leech
imitations, streamers, etc.

I'm granting any roffians a 1-year grace period on using this idea before I
start charging royalties.

--riverman

In article , says...
Why not tie a bunch of
flies that have a 'tube fly' upper, and a regular hook fly lower. When you
tie on the fly, you thread the tippet through the upper tube part, then tie
it onto the hook eye. That would give you a two-part fly that might have
some interesting motion, and you could even mix and match colors/patterns
for an interesting effect. It might work especially well for leech
imitations, streamers, etc.

I'm granting any roffians a 1-year grace period on using this idea before I
start charging royalties.


The patent office rejects your application, on the grounds that at
least one roffian has already done it:

http://www.misu.nodak.edu/~vang/PikeClave/Chas.htm

It's a good idea, as it lets you build a massively large pike streamer
on a short shanked hook. And like most good ideas, its probably been
thought of by a thousand guys over the last couple of centuries.

Kevin

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article , says...
Why not tie a bunch of
flies that have a 'tube fly' upper, and a regular hook fly lower. When
you
tie on the fly, you thread the tippet through the upper tube part, then
tie
it onto the hook eye. That would give you a two-part fly that might have
some interesting motion, and you could even mix and match colors/patterns
for an interesting effect. It might work especially well for leech
imitations, streamers, etc.

I'm granting any roffians a 1-year grace period on using this idea before
I
start charging royalties.


The patent office rejects your application, on the grounds that at
least one roffian has already done it:

http://www.misu.nodak.edu/~vang/PikeClave/Chas.htm

It's a good idea, as it lets you build a massively large pike streamer
on a short shanked hook. And like most good ideas, its probably been
thought of by a thousand guys over the last couple of centuries.


D'OH!! I hate when that happens!! Its like that idea I had about cooking
potato strips in hot oil and putting salt on them!

Rats, back to the drawing board!

--riverman

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article , says...
Why not tie a bunch of
flies that have a 'tube fly' upper, and a regular hook fly lower. When
you
tie on the fly, you thread the tippet through the upper tube part, then
tie
it onto the hook eye. That would give you a two-part fly that might have
some interesting motion, and you could even mix and match colors/patterns
for an interesting effect. It might work especially well for leech
imitations, streamers, etc.

I'm granting any roffians a 1-year grace period on using this idea before
I
start charging royalties.


The patent office rejects your application, on the grounds that at
least one roffian has already done it:

http://www.misu.nodak.edu/~vang/PikeClave/Chas.htm

It's a good idea, as it lets you build a massively large pike streamer
on a short shanked hook. And like most good ideas, its probably been
thought of by a thousand guys over the last couple of centuries.


D'OH!! I hate when that happens!! Its like that idea I had about cooking
potato strips in hot oil and putting salt on them!

Rats, back to the drawing board!

--riverman

In article , says...
Why not tie a bunch of
flies that have a 'tube fly' upper, and a regular hook fly lower. When you
tie on the fly, you thread the tippet through the upper tube part, then tie
it onto the hook eye. That would give you a two-part fly that might have
some interesting motion, and you could even mix and match colors/patterns
for an interesting effect. It might work especially well for leech
imitations, streamers, etc.

I'm granting any roffians a 1-year grace period on using this idea before I
start charging royalties.


The patent office rejects your application, on the grounds that at
least one roffian has already done it:

http://www.misu.nodak.edu/~vang/PikeClave/Chas.htm

It's a good idea, as it lets you build a massively large pike streamer
on a short shanked hook. And like most good ideas, its probably been
thought of by a thousand guys over the last couple of centuries.

Kevin

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reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu