UGH! More red hook stuff!

I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe that the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at times in shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless & meaningless place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can signify nothing other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney little bit of red on that hook." And of course, that's only if fish were actually smart enough to be able to think.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))

"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
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I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe that
the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at times in
shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless & meaningless
place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can signify nothing
other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney little bit of red on
that hook." And of course, that's only if fish were actually smart enough
to be able to think.

First, can we post in plain text in a non-binary group (Format, Plain Text).

I doubt the fish are smart enough to know what a hook is. If they were, I'd
think they realize that a spinnerbait looks very little like what they
usually eat for food. I'd not discount a red hook so easily. When a
crankbait is being reeled in, the treble hook would be pulled backward by
the force of the water and onto the underbelly of the lure. Perhaps this
would make it look like it was bleeding or wounded.

And... red hooks on a crankbait will actually move (tail end), creating
something that may look like whatever it is a fish likes. Spinnerbait hooks
are usually just there, hidden under a skirt...

If red is your thang... then go for it. JMO


"Todd Copeland" wrote in message
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"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
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I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that
the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at times in
shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless & meaningless
place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can signify nothing
other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney little bit of red on
that hook." And of course, that's only if fish were actually smart enough
to be able to think.

First, can we post in plain text in a non-binary group (Format, Plain
Text).

I doubt the fish are smart enough to know what a hook is. If they were,
I'd
think they realize that a spinnerbait looks very little like what they
usually eat for food. I'd not discount a red hook so easily. When a
crankbait is being reeled in, the treble hook would be pulled backward by
the force of the water and onto the underbelly of the lure. Perhaps this
would make it look like it was bleeding or wounded.

And... red hooks on a crankbait will actually move (tail end), creating
something that may look like whatever it is a fish likes. Spinnerbait hooks
are usually just there, hidden under a skirt...

If red is your thang... then go for it. JMO


"Todd Copeland" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
. com...
I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that
the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at times in
shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless & meaningless
place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can signify nothing
other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney little bit of red on
that hook." And of course, that's only if fish were actually smart enough
to be able to think.

First, can we post in plain text in a non-binary group (Format, Plain
Text).

I doubt the fish are smart enough to know what a hook is. If they were,
I'd
think they realize that a spinnerbait looks very little like what they
usually eat for food. I'd not discount a red hook so easily. When a
crankbait is being reeled in, the treble hook would be pulled backward by
the force of the water and onto the underbelly of the lure. Perhaps this
would make it look like it was bleeding or wounded.

Bob Rickard wrote:
I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at
times in shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless &
meaningless place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can
signify nothing other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney
little bit of red on that hook." And of course, that's only if fish
were actually smart enough to be able to think.

Fish don't really think (of course you knew that), Bit do you know if
the red on the hook just catches some fishermen (not you of course) or
does it catch more fish, you don't know that, one way or another. do you
not think that many hours , days , months, were put into testing to see
if red hooks catch more fish.

Let's look at a few simple facts
One, the popular red hook craze was started by a company, that knew that
if it took off, every hook company would bring out red hooks, they had
no way to protect the idea of painting a hook red, as tiny red hooks
have been used for trout for many years. Now what would intice this hook
company to start this craze,, not an exclusive market, so they would
just be right back competing like they have always done by using other
colors.

They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors, they did it for the fishermen, not
their bottom line, which really didn't change, because all of their
competitors quickly brought out their own red hooks.

You need to be greatfull for companies that are always trying to improve
your catches, if not for them, you would still be using a cane pole, a
cork, and a row boat


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Still, IMHO, of all the places to put red on a lure, the hook is still the
worst choice. For example, a little blob of red fingernail polish on the
tail end of a crank bait gives a much better display of the red than the
scrawny wire of the hook can ever do.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))



"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Bob Rickard wrote:
I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at
times in shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless &
meaningless place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can
signify nothing other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney
little bit of red on that hook." And of course, that's only if fish
were actually smart enough to be able to think.

Fish don't really think (of course you knew that), Bit do you know if
the red on the hook just catches some fishermen (not you of course) or
does it catch more fish, you don't know that, one way or another. do you
not think that many hours , days , months, were put into testing to see
if red hooks catch more fish.

Let's look at a few simple facts
One, the popular red hook craze was started by a company, that knew that
if it took off, every hook company would bring out red hooks, they had
no way to protect the idea of painting a hook red, as tiny red hooks
have been used for trout for many years. Now what would intice this hook
company to start this craze,, not an exclusive market, so they would
just be right back competing like they have always done by using other
colors.

They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors, they did it for the fishermen, not
their bottom line, which really didn't change, because all of their
competitors quickly brought out their own red hooks.

You need to be greatfull for companies that are always trying to improve
your catches, if not for them, you would still be using a cane pole, a
cork, and a row boat


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I still say that it has nothing to do with the whole bleeding bait thing or
injured fish thing. I still think that the red flash the fish see is more
related to the gill on a fish it wants to eat. All my hooks are red and they
always will be. Besides red hooks are cheaper to buy


"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
om...
Still, IMHO, of all the places to put red on a lure, the hook is still the
worst choice. For example, a little blob of red fingernail polish on the
tail end of a crank bait gives a much better display of the red than the
scrawny wire of the hook can ever do.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))



"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Bob Rickard wrote:
I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at
times in shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless &
meaningless place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can
signify nothing other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney
little bit of red on that hook." And of course, that's only if fish
were actually smart enough to be able to think.

Fish don't really think (of course you knew that), Bit do you know if
the red on the hook just catches some fishermen (not you of course) or
does it catch more fish, you don't know that, one way or another. do you
not think that many hours , days , months, were put into testing to see
if red hooks catch more fish.

Let's look at a few simple facts
One, the popular red hook craze was started by a company, that knew that
if it took off, every hook company would bring out red hooks, they had
no way to protect the idea of painting a hook red, as tiny red hooks
have been used for trout for many years. Now what would intice this hook
company to start this craze,, not an exclusive market, so they would
just be right back competing like they have always done by using other
colors.

They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors, they did it for the fishermen, not
their bottom line, which really didn't change, because all of their
competitors quickly brought out their own red hooks.

You need to be greatfull for companies that are always trying to improve
your catches, if not for them, you would still be using a cane pole, a
cork, and a row boat


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I still say that it has nothing to do with the whole bleeding bait thing or
injured fish thing. I still think that the red flash the fish see is more
related to the gill on a fish it wants to eat. All my hooks are red and they
always will be. Besides red hooks are cheaper to buy


"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
om...
Still, IMHO, of all the places to put red on a lure, the hook is still the
worst choice. For example, a little blob of red fingernail polish on the
tail end of a crank bait gives a much better display of the red than the
scrawny wire of the hook can ever do.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))



"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Bob Rickard wrote:
I have been meaning to mention this for some time: I personally believe
that the addition of some red on a lure can really improve catches at
times in shallow water, but... the most absolutely worthless, useless &
meaningless place to put that red would be on the hook, where it can
signify nothing other to a fish than: "Look! There's a teeney-weeney
little bit of red on that hook." And of course, that's only if fish
were actually smart enough to be able to think.

Fish don't really think (of course you knew that), Bit do you know if
the red on the hook just catches some fishermen (not you of course) or
does it catch more fish, you don't know that, one way or another. do you
not think that many hours , days , months, were put into testing to see
if red hooks catch more fish.

Let's look at a few simple facts
One, the popular red hook craze was started by a company, that knew that
if it took off, every hook company would bring out red hooks, they had
no way to protect the idea of painting a hook red, as tiny red hooks
have been used for trout for many years. Now what would intice this hook
company to start this craze,, not an exclusive market, so they would
just be right back competing like they have always done by using other
colors.

They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors, they did it for the fishermen, not
their bottom line, which really didn't change, because all of their
competitors quickly brought out their own red hooks.

You need to be greatfull for companies that are always trying to improve
your catches, if not for them, you would still be using a cane pole, a
cork, and a row boat


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

"Rodney" wrote in message
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They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors,

Rodney, I'm a skeptic--what testing was done to determine that they produced
more fish?

There was a 2 1/2 month study on various lakes in Mount Pocono P.A last
year. I caught way more fish than Dave did. Until he switched to red hooks.
I suspect that half of it was related to the red hooks and the other was
because Dave really sucks at fishing. either way get red hooks and find a
guy like Dave and you can feel like a pro too!!!!


"Marty" wrote in message
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"Rodney" wrote in message
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They brought out these hooks because they did actually produce (overall)
more fish than the standard colors,

Rodney, I'm a skeptic--what testing was done to determine that they
produced
more fish?