Hopper Wings

Hello All,

I am doing some winter tying. Having made all of my most used patterns,
I want to get into some more extic stuff. Does anybody have much
experience with synthetic materials used for a grasshopper wing? I have
always used turkey, but believe that a synthetic would give me a neater,
trimmer profile that I want. Any suggestions?

Pete Collin

Peter A. Collin wrote:
Hello All,

I am doing some winter tying. Having made all of my most used
patterns,
I want to get into some more extic stuff. Does anybody have much
experience with synthetic materials used for a grasshopper wing? I
have
always used turkey, but believe that a synthetic would give me a
neater,
trimmer profile that I want. Any suggestions?

Pete Collin

fish a streamer

Wayne
to fish is human....to release Divine!!!

Peter A. Collin wrote:
Hello All,

I am doing some winter tying. Having made all of my most used patterns,
I want to get into some more extic stuff. Does anybody have much
experience with synthetic materials used for a grasshopper wing? I have
always used turkey, but believe that a synthetic would give me a neater,
trimmer profile that I want. Any suggestions?

Pete Collin

Organza comes to mind, or maybe the stuff that is sold as 'sedge wing',
altough it is ridiculously expensive.

--
Herman

"Peter A. Collin" wrote in message
...
Hello All,

I am doing some winter tying. Having made all of my most used patterns, I
want to get into some more extic stuff. Does anybody have much experience
with synthetic materials used for a grasshopper wing? I have always used
turkey, but believe that a synthetic would give me a neater, trimmer
profile that I want. Any suggestions?

Pete Collin

I use "thin skin" for wing cases. I also use plastic raffia. I like the
raffia because its cheap and I can fold it and glue it with fingernail
polish to get the right effect. Sometimes, I sprinkle the appropriate color
of hare's mask inside whilst folding. This gives it a mottled appearance.
I also use tyvek from overnight mailers. This can be colored with permanent
markers then cut. Additionally, I've got some tyvek survival maps used by
military pilots. These are already colored perfectly.
Herman mentioned organza. Its very nice stuff and can be purchased cheap at
your local fabric store. Buy the right color and BANG, instant wings. I
like to cut a long thin rectangle, tie it in perpendicular to the fly, then
tease out the weft. Done with sparkle organza (ask for it in the store) and
its an instant spinner wing. Darker colors, sealed with head cement or
heated (the edge will fray), make very good hopper wings.
Waterproof clear tape and feathers. Lay the feather of your choice on the
tape and cut out a wing shape. Works great. It has the durability of
synthetic and the color of the feather. Its also a lot easier to work with
once its on the tape.
Hope this helps.
--
Frank Reid
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:30:10 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

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Herman mentioned organza. Its very nice stuff and can be purchased cheap at
your local fabric store. Buy the right color and BANG, instant wings. I
like to cut a long thin rectangle, tie it in perpendicular to the fly, then
tease out the weft. Done with sparkle organza (ask for it in the store) and
its an instant spinner wing. Darker colors, sealed with head cement or
heated (the edge will fray), make very good hopper wings.

Would it make it more interesting to the fish if you left the trailing
edges of the wings go and fray?

I won't address the obscenity of cutting up maps. I won't. Well,
only just that mention. Aaaaaaaaarrrrgh!


Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Would it make it more interesting to the fish if you left the trailing
edges of the wings go and fray?

I won't address the obscenity of cutting up maps. I won't. Well,
only just that mention. Aaaaaaaaarrrrgh!

The worf and weft is extremely loose in organza. The whole wing would
fray out in one or two casts.
I agree with you on the maps, but I've got tons of them, only use one
and these were destined for the dumpster. The one I use was marked up
and damaged.
I worked extensively with maps for many years. I'm very visually
oriented and have memorized many. So yeah, I can understand the
reluctance to damage them.

--
Frank Reid
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:50:14 -0500, Frank Reid wrote:

Would it make it more interesting to the fish if you left the trailing
edges of the wings go and fray?

I won't address the obscenity of cutting up maps. I won't. Well,
only just that mention. Aaaaaaaaarrrrgh!

The worf and weft is extremely loose in organza. The whole wing would
fray out in one or two casts.
I agree with you on the maps, but I've got tons of them, only use one
and these were destined for the dumpster. The one I use was marked up
and damaged.
I worked extensively with maps for many years. I'm very visually
oriented and have memorized many. So yeah, I can understand the
reluctance to damage them.

Wow.

I wouldda bet major money that I'd get through all of 2005 without ever seeing
the words "worf" and "weft" used in a sentence...

/daytripper (Frankly, stunned ;-)

"daytripper" wrote in message
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Wow.

I wouldda bet major money that I'd get through all of 2005 without ever
seeing
the words "worf" and "weft" used in a sentence...

/daytripper (Frankly, stunned ;-)

Hell, I'd have bet the farm that I wouldn't see the word "worf" used
anywhere!

Wolfgang
who supposes it comes as no surprise to anyone that he hasn't made in big in
agribusiness.

daytripper wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:50:14 -0500, Frank Reid wrote:


The worf and weft is extremely loose in organza. The whole wing would
fray out in one or two casts.
I agree with you on the maps, but I've got tons of them, only use one
and these were destined for the dumpster. The one I use was marked up
and damaged.
I worked extensively with maps for many years. I'm very visually
oriented and have memorized many. So yeah, I can understand the
reluctance to damage them.


Wow.

I wouldda bet major money that I'd get through all of 2005 without ever seeing
the words "worf" and "weft" used in a sentence...

/daytripper (Frankly, stunned ;-)

It's "warp and weft." I believe Worf was a Klingon in Star Trek.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I've got some tyvek survival maps used by
military pilots. These are already colored perfectly.

..... I've got tons of them, only use one
and these were destined for the dumpster. The one I use was marked up
and damaged.

If they're colored perfectly and you have tons of them,Frank, why not
hire a Rider truck and bring them to Penns Clave, instead of
Dumpstering them?

... I can understand the reluctance to damage them.

Me too! I'm a dedicated cartophile. I have a small number of
Sectional Aeronautical Charts old enough to show the Adcock ranges
that were the means of aerial navigation prior to about 1955 or '60.

Most contemporary pilots have never even seen one. I want to leave
them to an aviation museum when I check out.

vince