What about outriggers?

We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more lines
in the water?

Thanks!

--
Peter Aitken

Peter Aitken wrote:
We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:24:48 -0400, John Murphy wrote:

Peter Aitken wrote:
We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna

Where in NC are you out of? Some folks where my wife works have been pushing NC
as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in New Bern, but
that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I own a 21' Pro Line,
but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of fishing you're talking about.
Any comments, recommendations, etc?

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

John H wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:24:48 -0400, John Murphy wrote:


Peter Aitken wrote:

We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna


Where in NC are you out of? Some folks where my wife works have been pushing NC
as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in New Bern, but
that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I own a 21' Pro Line,
but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of fishing you're talking about.
Any comments, recommendations, etc?

We live in Beaufort County not far off the ICW. Its about a 2 1/2 hour
run to Ocracoke Island which makes a good base of ops. PLenty of dock
space, fuel and facilities. Its a short (75-90 min) ride out to the
Gulf Stream from there - usually 20-30 miles out. Last year we had blue
water 11 miles out. This spring it was a 40 mile run.

New Bern is a little further inland and is on the Neuse River which is a
bit nastier more often than the Pamlico River where we are. Beaufort
County around Washington and Belhaven is becoming a great retirement
area. Boating is big here. New Bern is probably more known as a
golfing community.

A 21 footer is fine for the rivers, the sound and near shore fishing
outside. I wouldn't want to go much past 5 miles out in anything less
than 26 ft twin engine. (But then again I used to be in the USCG).

On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 09:36:50 -0400, John Murphy wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:24:48 -0400, John Murphy wrote:


Peter Aitken wrote:

We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna


Where in NC are you out of? Some folks where my wife works have been pushing NC
as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in New Bern, but
that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I own a 21' Pro Line,
but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of fishing you're talking about.
Any comments, recommendations, etc?

We live in Beaufort County not far off the ICW. Its about a 2 1/2 hour
run to Ocracoke Island which makes a good base of ops. PLenty of dock
space, fuel and facilities. Its a short (75-90 min) ride out to the
Gulf Stream from there - usually 20-30 miles out. Last year we had blue
water 11 miles out. This spring it was a 40 mile run.

New Bern is a little further inland and is on the Neuse River which is a
bit nastier more often than the Pamlico River where we are. Beaufort
County around Washington and Belhaven is becoming a great retirement
area. Boating is big here. New Bern is probably more known as a
golfing community.

A 21 footer is fine for the rivers, the sound and near shore fishing
outside. I wouldn't want to go much past 5 miles out in anything less
than 26 ft twin engine. (But then again I used to be in the USCG).

Sorry it took so long to get back. I lost the thread somehow. Anyway, thanks for
the info. It seems like New Bern is too damn far away from decent fishing to be
much fun. I don't know what boat is good for golfing! :)
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:24:48 -0400, John Murphy
wrote:

Peter Aitken wrote:
We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers
and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when
trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And
am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more
lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna

Where in NC are you out of? Some folks where my wife works have been
pushing NC
as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in New Bern,
but
that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I own a 21' Pro
Line,
but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of fishing you're talking
about.
Any comments, recommendations, etc?

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


We live in Chapel Hill but will base the boat in Beaufort. That's a great
base for fishing. Easy access to the sounds, lots of wrecks close by, and
the Gulf stream is not too far away. Real estate has gone up a lot in
Beaufort. Morehead City and Atlantic Beach are nearby - not as nice in my
opinion, more congested and touristy, but not as expensive. I hesitate to
give advice because we do not know the area that well. Another NC coast area
you might look into is Manteo.

Cheers,

Peter Aitken

On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:29:59 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:24:48 -0400, John Murphy
wrote:

Peter Aitken wrote:
We are about to purchase a 28 foot boat that will be used primarily for
fishing in the waters off North Carolina. We are unsure about outriggers
and
whether they would be worthwhile for us. I know they are used when
trolling
for billfish. Are they used for other species too - tuna, mackeral? And
am I
right in thinking they serve no other purpose than to let you get more
lines
in the water?

Thanks!


I have a 28 foot boat in NC also. We use the riggers whenever we are
trolling offshore for billfish, tuna, wahoo, mahi, kings, etc. In
addition to spreading the lines out and allowing more lines, it also
gives you an automatic dropback which gives the fish a chance to get the
bait into his mouth after a hit.

For a 28 footer I'd recommend a minimum of 15ft and more likely 18ft
poles. You don't need real fancy ones. Perko has a couple of sets that
should do you fine. Make sure you get reasonably sturdy ones with good
solid mounts. If a big fat yellowfin or the man in the blue suit comes
along you don't want them bent or broken.

Capt Tuna

Where in NC are you out of? Some folks where my wife works have been
pushing NC
as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in New Bern,
but
that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I own a 21' Pro
Line,
but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of fishing you're talking
about.
Any comments, recommendations, etc?

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


We live in Chapel Hill but will base the boat in Beaufort. That's a great
base for fishing. Easy access to the sounds, lots of wrecks close by, and
the Gulf stream is not too far away. Real estate has gone up a lot in
Beaufort. Morehead City and Atlantic Beach are nearby - not as nice in my
opinion, more congested and touristy, but not as expensive. I hesitate to
give advice because we do not know the area that well. Another NC coast area
you might look into is Manteo.

Cheers,

Peter Aitken

The waterways around Beaufort look interesting. I'm not really in favor of NC
anyway, 'cause it's too far away from the kids. Oh well, I've got a couple years
to make a decision.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NO! Stay Away, It is awful here. Great fishing, great beaches, terrible
place. Taxes are low. Especially, stay away from Carteret County
(Beaufort, Morehead City, Atlantic Beach).

Someone from the chamber told me we are expecting 400,000 souls on July 4,
2006 when the tall ships gather.

bc

Morehead City

Some folks where my wife works have been
pushing NC as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in
New Bern, but that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I
own a 21' Pro Line, but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of
fishing you're talking about. Any comments, recommendations, etc?

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:27:16 GMT, bc wrote:

NO! Stay Away, It is awful here. Great fishing, great beaches, terrible
place. Taxes are low. Especially, stay away from Carteret County
(Beaufort, Morehead City, Atlantic Beach).

Someone from the chamber told me we are expecting 400,000 souls on July 4,
2006 when the tall ships gather.

bc

Morehead City

Some folks where my wife works have been
pushing NC as a retirement home. She saw some ads for some nice places in
New Bern, but that seems a long way from any decent fishing. Right now I
own a 21' Pro Line, but that doesn't seem big enough for the kind of
fishing you're talking about. Any comments, recommendations, etc?

I won't be getting there any time soon!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

retire to el salvador, there we have great fishing
www.tropicooltours.com
not much fishing left in the carolinas,

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