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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Gene Cyprych
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I forgot to report- on my way down the hill from Hemlock on my way to
fish Spring Creek last Friday (8/5) I spotted a bear! It was walking
up the road about 1/2 the way from the entrance to Hemlock Acres to
Penn's Creek. I stopped along side it and it moved quickly into the
woods (on the side away from the campground). I got out, looked at the
bear about 30 yards away, opened the back of my SUV to get my camera
but by the time I got it, he/she was gone!
That was my first PA bear sighting!
I thought that the bear would have at least hung around long enough to
get directions to Frank's cooler.

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Old August 13th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Wolfgang
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"Gene Cyprych" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to report- on my way down the hill from Hemlock on my way to
fish Spring Creek last Friday (8/5) I spotted a bear! It was walking
up the road about 1/2 the way from the entrance to Hemlock Acres to
Penn's Creek. I stopped along side it and it moved quickly into the
woods (on the side away from the campground). I got out, looked at the
bear about 30 yards away, opened the back of my SUV to get my camera
but by the time I got it, he/she was gone!
That was my first PA bear sighting!


Stick around Hemlock for a while and it probably won't be your last.

I thought that the bear would have at least hung around long enough to
get directions to Frank's cooler.


Directions I'd be happy to provide any time I'm not cocooned next to it.


On a somewhat more serious note......

What are the odds that someone might actually get mauled by a bear at a
campground in central Pennsylvania......one in a million?......one in ten
million? The trouble with probabilities is that the **** doesn't need to
wait till the ten millionth event to hit the fan. Given the number of
reported bear sightings, I'd say Hemlock Acres is a ****ing tragedy just
waiting for the right opportunity.

Wolfgang


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Old August 13th, 2005, 06:34 AM
Mike
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You may be right Wolfie.......There are alot of bears in the area of
Hemlock Acres.....99.9 percent of the time the bears will move on
away.........I have fished Three Streamer Stans with bears in the area
i have seen scat at Ingleby.......I have seen Rattle Snakes at Big
Fishing Creek.....Yes Rudy could proberly do a little more to deter the
bears from hanging around the campgrounds but so do people camping.....
When we were there in June Rudy was picking up the garbage on a daily
bases... He did have warnings at the store and on the bulletin board of
bears in the area he did personal tell me of the bears and has a sign
to stopp and see him upon arrival..... Any idea what else he could
do......i know of at least 3 bears that hang out over at Stans which is
over the hill from Hemlock......There are several down at The Cherry
Run Cabin area.......Wild life is a part of the mystic we call
flyfishing I myself enjoy it as much as fishing itself.........I grew
up with wild life in the woods of Maine our nearest neighbor was 3/4 of
a mile away the bus stop was 1 1/4 mile from home my brother and i
carried loaded rifles to and from the bus stop yes we walked....... The
property is now a sportsmens club........Most of my encounters have
been in the east some in Ga, SC, Texas,& Ca.....We all know as
sportsmen that food stuffs are to be kept cleaned up and stored
properly Frank admits he did not do that but knew to do that I don't
think the bear was interested in chowing on you or Frank but barley
stew but ya gotta admit looking for a place to sleep wearing only your
BVD's was funny......Most human/animal encounters are caused by human
error ie right place wrong time food stuffs just lieing around the list
goes on and on......As the country gets more developed the less
habitate animals have thus more encounters and we all know the animal
get the short end of the stick........Here in Ct we have had around 75
bear sightings this year alone..........Enough of my ramblings just
wanted to put my $.02 in........................


Standin In A River Wavibg A Stick

Mike

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Old August 13th, 2005, 11:13 PM
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I would second what my Handy Pal says. Black bears come with the territory
in the East. More so every year, which is a good sign for the natural
environment being improved. To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time. To
characterize Hemlock Acres as some sort of tragedy waiting to happen is
unfair to Rudy. He has learned, and quickly, and has done what has to be
done. If campers want to be stupid or careless, that is on them. The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).
tom


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Old August 14th, 2005, 02:22 AM
vincent p. norris
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To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time.


Better than that, Tom. The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.

Twenty or so years ago, according to that unimpeachable source, the
CDT, a resident of Pleasant Gap (near State College) saw a mother bear
and her cub in his garden. The dummy rushed out and tried to chase
both bears away. Mama cuffed him a good one, and both bears left.

Dummy suffered only minor scratches.

That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.

vince





To
characterize Hemlock Acres as some sort of tragedy waiting to happen is
unfair to Rudy. He has learned, and quickly, and has done what has to be
done. If campers want to be stupid or careless, that is on them. The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).
tom


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Old August 14th, 2005, 05:29 AM
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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...Dummy suffered only minor scratches.

That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.


Serves him right for leading with his chin.

Wolfgang
and they call ME a harsh critic!


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Old August 14th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Steve
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vincent p. norris wrote:
To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time.


Better than that, Tom. The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.


SNIP


vince



http://ap.lancasteronline.com/4/pa_bear_attack

Three young adults were camping in a "no camping" area of Hickory Run
State Park and had an "encounter" with a bear. The injuries weren't
life-threatening, but the campers did stupid tings. The park assistant
manager calls the incident and "encounter" rather than an "atttack."

Steve

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Old August 14th, 2005, 05:26 AM
Wolfgang
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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
news:xguLe.355$286.190@trndny09...
...The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).


And where would this hypothetical someone be allowing a theoretical kid to
approach a probabilistic bear.....with or without potential cubs?

Wolfgang
who knows than an academic issue ain't worth squat if you can't find a place
to test it.


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Old August 15th, 2005, 03:08 AM
vincent p. norris
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And where would this hypothetical someone be allowing a theoretical kid to
approach a probabilistic bear.....with or without potential cubs?

Wolfgang


I recall reading, years ago, that a visibly agitated Yellowstone Park
Ranger went into his supervisor's office, slapped his badge down on
his desk, and said, "I quit!"

After his supervisor calmed him down a bit, he confessed he had just
slugged a tourist. (Note: Rangers are not supposed to do that.)

Said tourist was putting his little kid on the back of a bear so his
wife could take a cute picture.

vince
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Old August 15th, 2005, 03:56 AM
Cyli
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:26:44 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
news:xguLe.355$286.190@trndny09...
...The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).


And where would this hypothetical someone be allowing a theoretical kid to
approach a probabilistic bear.....with or without potential cubs?

Wolfgang
who knows than an academic issue ain't worth squat if you can't find a place
to test it.

Lots of stories around, mostly about tourons in Yellowstone or
Yosemite, who put their children in danger with bears and other wild
animals for the cute picture. One could write or email and ask about
the rangers, if one wanted the truth. I've been to Yellowstone and
seen the tourons, back when I was a kid and the rangers weren't yet
sick of killing 'problem' bears so weren't much enforcing bear rules
and saw things that now upset me, though none involved parents
directly putting kids in danger. Other than letting them hold jelly
donuts out the car windows for the bears to take. At the time, I
wasn't scared, just disgusted at the stupidity.

People whose big encounters with wildlife have been the bunny or the
squirrel in their suburban or urban back yard tend to act as if
they're all very dangerous or as if they're all like cartoon
characters when they finally see bigger wildlife. Disney and Yogi
Bear have a lot to answer for...

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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