Katrina and the Waves

There'll be no "walkin' on sunshine" for the folks of Louisiana. This looks
like the storm that all of the gulf states have been dreading for decades.
This storm looks even bigger than Andrew, physically; and if it maintains
it's current strength, New Orleans may be no more after Monday.

Any of you ROFFians, still in harms way, grab your families, friends, and
pets and get the hell out of there!

Mark

Boy Mark it does look like a doozy. New Orleans has been the feature of more
than one news story, in regards to hurricanes. Isn't a lot of the coast or
city area at sea level or below? Something about the lay of the land that
makes it especially vulnerable to flooding in some peculiar way?

john
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

There'll be no "walkin' on sunshine" for the folks of Louisiana. This
looks
like the storm that all of the gulf states have been dreading for decades.
This storm looks even bigger than Andrew, physically; and if it maintains
it's current strength, New Orleans may be no more after Monday.

Any of you ROFFians, still in harms way, grab your families, friends, and
pets and get the hell out of there!

Mark

"asadi" wrote in message
.. .
Boy Mark it does look like a doozy. New Orleans has been the feature of
more
than one news story, in regards to hurricanes. Isn't a lot of the coast or
city area at sea level or below? Something about the lay of the land that
makes it especially vulnerable to flooding in some peculiar way?

Well most of the city is below sea level, protected only by a series of
dikes and pump drainage systems which they say can be breached easily in a
large hurricane. Add to it the destruction of the delta over the past few
decades and you have a recipe for large problems.

"Wayne Knight" wrote: "Well most of the city is below sea level, protected
only by a series of dikes and pump drainage systems which they say can be
breached easily in a large hurricane. Add to it the destruction of the delta
over the past few decades and you have a recipe for large problems."

Louisiana politicians have been asking for money for years to shore up our
coastline and rebuild our barrier islands. These islands helped protect the
tidal surge from making it all the way in to the city.

The Corp of Engineers has help create this problem by building the levees to
hold back the annual flood waters of the Mississippi River and other
projects like the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

Every time the politicians from Louisiana asked for the money the
politicians from other states refused to go along with it. At present the
entire oil supply and production coming into the Gulf of Mexico is shutdown.
8 refineries are shutdown and can only start up when the waters recede,
power is restored and enough employees return to work to man the jobs. Many
of the employees of the refineries lived in the New Orleans metro area and
had their homes destroyed. I just returned to my residence tonight after
leaving town Sunday. I have minor damage and I live 25 miles West of New
Orleans.

I was told to report back to work Monday but only if my family and home are
secured and safe. My employer post a message on the hotline for work
stating all employees affected by the Hurricane will be paid throughout the
ordeal. This could last up to a month or two for some employees.

Sarge

"Sarge" wrote in message
...
I just returned to my residence tonight after
leaving town Sunday. I have minor damage and I live 25 miles West of New
Orleans.

I'm glad you escaped with minor damage and family is safe.

I hate seeing what has become of my home state, but I know it was only a
matter of time before somthing like this occurred. Most of my family is in
Houma and Lake Charles but had some in NO and they are safe.

Good luck and let us know if you need anything.

Wayne

They could take the 900 million for the Gravina Island Bridge in Alaska and
build a a mile or so of levees. Most of the people hurting in NO are black
and either don't vote or vote Democratic. If they had all voted for bush
and elected a congressman who drank the coolaid New Orleans would look like
Holland. You could buy all 50 of the people on Gravina Island their own
Higgins boat ( made in New Orleans ) and still have 800 million left over
for building a levee.
Global warming and a risiing sea level is a reallity. We will either build
levees or move inland as the wate rises.


"Sarge" wrote in message
...
"Wayne Knight" wrote: "Well most of the city is below sea level, protected
only by a series of dikes and pump drainage systems which they say can be
breached easily in a large hurricane. Add to it the destruction of the
delta
over the past few decades and you have a recipe for large problems."

Louisiana politicians have been asking for money for years to shore up our
coastline and rebuild our barrier islands. These islands helped protect
the
tidal surge from making it all the way in to the city.

The Corp of Engineers has help create this problem by building the levees
to
hold back the annual flood waters of the Mississippi River and other
projects like the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

Every time the politicians from Louisiana asked for the money the
politicians from other states refused to go along with it. At present the
entire oil supply and production coming into the Gulf of Mexico is
shutdown.
8 refineries are shutdown and can only start up when the waters recede,
power is restored and enough employees return to work to man the jobs.
Many
of the employees of the refineries lived in the New Orleans metro area and
had their homes destroyed. I just returned to my residence tonight after
leaving town Sunday. I have minor damage and I live 25 miles West of New
Orleans.

I was told to report back to work Monday but only if my family and home
are
secured and safe. My employer post a message on the hotline for work
stating all employees affected by the Hurricane will be paid throughout
the
ordeal. This could last up to a month or two for some employees.

Sarge

"B J Conner" wrote in message
news:FejSe.12668$B34.3220@trnddc09...
...Global warming and a risiing sea level is a reallity. We will either
build
levees or move inland as the wate rises.

It'll be both. But the latter won't happen until the former fail at least
once more.....maybe two or three times......depends on how long it takes to
kill a LOT of people.

Wolfgang

"B J Conner" wrote in message
news:FejSe.12668$B34.3220@trnddc09...

They could take the 900 million for the Gravina Island Bridge in Alaska

How can we overcome the right when the left can't get it right either? The
appropriation as reported by one of the news services the other day was 210
million or so.

"asadi" wrote in message
.. .
Boy Mark it does look like a doozy. New Orleans has been the feature of
more
than one news story, in regards to hurricanes. Isn't a lot of the coast or
city area at sea level or below? Something about the lay of the land that
makes it especially vulnerable to flooding in some peculiar way?

john
//snip//

Downtown New Orleans is actually below sea level. But here's what's really
interesting: the natural course of the Mississppi river is not its present
course past Baton Rouge and New Orleans to the Gulf. It naturally would
would turn right north of BR and flow into the Atchafalaya River system, and
thence to the Gulf near Morgan City, well west of New Orleans.

It's prevented from doing that by a Corps of Engineers project called the
"Old River Control Structure". If that structure, built in 1963 to solve
problems that had been accumulating for two hundered years, were to fail,
the results would be catastrophic for both New Orleans and Morgan City.

--
Bob Patton
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"Bob Patton"
Downtown New Orleans is actually below sea level. But here's what's really
interesting: the natural course of the Mississppi river is not its present
course past Baton Rouge and New Orleans to the Gulf. It naturally would
would turn right north of BR and flow into the Atchafalaya River system,
and
thence to the Gulf near Morgan City, well west of New Orleans.

It's prevented from doing that by a Corps of Engineers project called the
"Old River Control Structure". If that structure, built in 1963 to solve
problems that had been accumulating for two hundered years, were to fail,
the results would be catastrophic for both New Orleans and Morgan City.

--
Bob Patton
(remove hat to respond)


I just went to a couple of news sites and read some stories about the dikes
and pumps and such.... this could be bad...

john