What flies to bring

Hi all,

So, here I go again. A new journey to go fishing in another part of the
world from where I live. Last time it took me several days to catch a
decent fish (Penns), and I learned the importance of acquiring
knowledge of local fly patterns and enthomology, and of course to have
the fly tied on correctly. Believe me, a knot around the hook bend will
destroy an in all other ways perfect day ;-(
Since I'm this time going as far as it is possible for a Swede, and
still stay on the planet, I'm not likely to have too many opportunities
to go fishing there again (the flight tickets from Sweden to New
Zealand are disgustingly expensive).
I have, I think, the casting and presentation part fairly under
control, so what I was thinking was to get myself some information on
what flies to bring (read: probably buy) when fishing on the North
Island of NZ.
As far as I can tell at least a couple of people from ROFF went to NZ
and wet their lines during the past years. Any wise words on what to
think about before and during my trip to Taupo? I might be overly
optimistic to ask for wisdom on ROFF ;-), but OK, I'll settle for
ideas.
I will be fishing, at least for some days it seems, with Clark Reid and
he will probably be able to help out, but I was trying to prepare ahead
of time for once.
My guess is that Myron Buck (riverman), who will join me, might be
equally interested in what flies to bring and/or buy. Some info I have
found on the internet, but I will still be interested in more, if you
have any to share?

I have just turned another PM assignment down, so the likelyhood of an
appearance at Penns just increased (or maybe the Western clave, don't
know yet).

BR/ Roger Ohlund
Visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info about flyfishing in the
north of Sweden, Lapland

Can't help you on which flies to buy, but I can give you a hint. As
you learned at Penns, if you tie your tippet to the fly at the eye
instead of the bend, you'll catch more fish sooner.
"9 STINKING FISH! NINE!" :-)

Frank Reid
(by the way, think 16 foot leader/tippet combos)

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Hi all,

I have just turned another PM assignment down, so the likelyhood of an
appearance at Penns just increased (or maybe the Western clave, don't
know yet).

BR/ Roger Ohlund
Visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info about flyfishing in the
north of Sweden, Lapland


Roger, Not placing one location above the other, but if you haven't seen the
west in the USA I highly recommend it. I prefer small mountain streams
myself but I think Pennsylvania is sweet. However, 'do not' go to the
western clave without two days planned for sightseeing. It's really, really
neat.

john

Roger, Not placing one location above the other, but if you haven't seen the
west in the USA I highly recommend it. I prefer small mountain streams
myself but I think Pennsylvania is sweet. However, 'do not' go to the
western clave without two days planned for sightseeing. It's really, really
neat.

As a loyal Pensylvania native, I must second John's advice. At the
very least, fly into Denver, rent a car, and drive up over Trail Ridge
Road in Rocky Mountain National Park, on to Salt Lake City, then hop a
flight to the Clave.

Others are welcome to modify, contradict, or ridicule this advice, but
it would be a shame for you to see the spectacular beauty of the
Rockies only from 35,000 feet.

vince

I agree with those guys, Roger. I did a road trip through the American
West in my teens, and ended up daydreaming about it for the next 10
years, and eventually moved there. I would think a week of fishing and
two weeks of sightseeing would barely be enough. The sights to see are
huge and far apart: the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Yosemite, the
Pacific Northwest, the Columbia River Gorge, Yellowstone.....and those
are just the well-known ones. Then there are the thousands of secret
little spots....

On the issue of what flies to bring; I'm in contact with the owner of
the cottages we rented, who runs the local ff website. He'll be an
excellent resource for ideas and for flies, as there is a shop right on
the property. I'm more concerned about what weight gear to bring....and
that you don't forget to bring me my new reel!

--riverman

Myron,

I didn't forget, but my kids are coming on the second and the reel
hasn't arrived at my parent's place yet.
Thus, knowing that there are only three days to go, and knowing that
they will receive no mail deliveries during those days (New Year and
everything) I will see if they can send it to me when they get home.

On the other issue, I think we should discuss the coming summer and
maybe see if I can visit you in the US or something, then maybe the two
of us could go to a clave (which ever).
I'd like to see the rockies, but I'd also like to see the drunken bunch
of farts that I met the last time, even to the point of having to
settle for two fishing trips rather than one.

/Roger

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creative snippage..... but I'd also like to see the drunken bunch
of farts that I met the last time, even to the point of having to
settle for two fishing trips rather than one.

...dang Roger, I would've thought you had better taste than that. ;-)

Frank Sr.

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Myron,

I two fishing trips rather than one.

/Roger

Boss, here is what I would do.

The exception being that if five guys wanted to pick you up in my van in New
York and motor across the country, I would fly into Bozeman and rent the
littlest car I could to save on gas. Without a lot of planning and days
spent adjusting your schedule that would be the easiest. I think mine was
$300 US for nine days last year.

From Bozeman it is a short drive (one and a half hours) to clave central, a
campground in the forest. You may be more inclined to stay at one of the
many inns in the area (the fellows here would make sure you had a room)
where you will see a few of the scruffy, well, er, folks, not to mention
those that camp nearby and migrate in and out according to their mood.

From this central location, just pick a direction and drive for an hour or
two. You can not go wrong, it's beautiful.

Then I would make sure that I hooked up with Lou for a day or two (or me if
I am there as Lou took me last year) for sightseeing and fishing in the
park...Yellowstone.

In this way, You would get to know Montana.

Granted, you would miss a lot of other sights, but you would be bending your
neck so often and looking out the car window at the sights that you wouldn't
have time to stop and enjoy yourself.

I most highly recommend that you spend a day with Warren, on his boat. I
will hereby state that I think we all ought to pitch in just a wee bet and
help Warren host Roger.

Warren put s a lot of work and effort into those claves and I think we
should treat him and Roger to a good day on the river.

Blueberry pancakes at the campground, steak and wine at the Grizzly Inn...

What say you?

john

On 30 Dec 2005 03:18:16 -0800, "angler" wrote:

(snipped)

I'd like to see the rockies, but I'd also like to see the drunken bunch
of farts that I met the last time, even to the point of having to
settle for two fishing trips rather than one.

/Roger

Some of the Penn's Clave folks show up at the Yellowstone Clave, you
know. A few thousand miles difference is nothing to a fisherman.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:31:15 -0500, vincent p. norris wrote:


Roger, Not placing one location above the other, but if you haven't seen the
west in the USA I highly recommend it. I prefer small mountain streams
myself but I think Pennsylvania is sweet. However, 'do not' go to the
western clave without two days planned for sightseeing. It's really, really
neat.

As a loyal Pensylvania native, I must second John's advice. At the
very least, fly into Denver, rent a car, and drive up over Trail Ridge
Road in Rocky Mountain National Park, on to Salt Lake City, then hop a
flight to the Clave.

Others are welcome to modify, contradict, or ridicule this advice, but
it would be a shame for you to see the spectacular beauty of the
Rockies only from 35,000 feet.

Or rent a car in Denver and drive over the Rockies to Moab and see a little of
the southwest at Arches and Canyonlands, and then drive from Moab to Jackson and
check out Grand Teton before heading up through Yellowstone to the clave.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com