Motor question

Hi everyone,

I was sitting here looking thru Hurricane Katrina Salvage, and most of these
boats say "Engine submerged, seized up". How hard would it be to rebuild
say a 150 Johnson or Evinrude motor that's been submerged? I do have a
little better then general knowledge when it comes to car engines, but not
outboards. I know some of you have dropped an engine or two off the rear of
your boats!! Just admit it and you'll be glad you got it off your chest. I
sunk a 6 horse before but I just turned it in at the marina and $200 later,
back in action.

Is that something better left to the pro's, or can an avid do-it-yourselfer
do it with some diligence and time? Anyone have about an average cost to
have one professionally rebuilt?

Thanks for you're time,

Doug

"Doug" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I was sitting here looking thru Hurricane Katrina Salvage, and most of
these boats say "Engine submerged, seized up". How hard would it be to
rebuild say a 150 Johnson or Evinrude motor that's been submerged? I do
have a little better then general knowledge when it comes to car engines,
but not outboards. I know some of you have dropped an engine or two off
the rear of your boats!! Just admit it and you'll be glad you got it off
your chest. I sunk a 6 horse before but I just turned it in at the marina
and $200 later, back in action.

Is that something better left to the pro's, or can an avid
do-it-yourselfer do it with some diligence and time? Anyone have about an
average cost to have one professionally rebuilt?

Thanks for you're time,

Doug


I think the major problem with the motors, is they have been setting a long
time after sinking. So lots of time for rust to work it's magic.

That's true.... I guess it has been some time that these motors have been
subjected the elements now, inside and out. Seems like such a waste though
that all these newer boats and motors are just trash now. I seen a 19' 2004
Ranger Reata with a 200 HP 4 stroke ( thought it was a 150)with some damage
for $1200.00, and the motor was said to be siezed up, and the hull had a few
scrapes on it, nothing major, is why I was asking. I guess I had my head in
the clouds a bit dreaming of a newer bass boat. Just not at the expense of a
whole new motor AND all the cosmetics it will need.

Thanks just the same though for taking the time,

Doug

P.S.

Anyone else getting cabin fever?? I've been out a couple times, but not
enough to keep my sanity I'm afraid


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I think the major problem with the motors, is they have been setting a
long time after sinking. So lots of time for rust to work it's magic.

"Doug" wrote in message
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That's true.... I guess it has been some time that these motors have
been subjected the elements now, inside and out. Seems like such a waste
though that all these newer boats and motors are just trash now. I seen a
19' 2004 Ranger Reata with a 200 HP 4 stroke ( thought it was a 150)with
some damage for $1200.00, and the motor was said to be siezed up, and the
hull had a few scrapes on it, nothing major, is why I was asking. I guess
I had my head in the clouds a bit dreaming of a newer bass boat. Just not
at the expense of a whole new motor AND all the cosmetics it will need.

Thanks just the same though for taking the time,

Doug

P.S.

Anyone else getting cabin fever?? I've been out a couple times, but not
enough to keep my sanity I'm afraid

Good lord, if you can get an 04 Ranger Reata for $1,200.00, JUMP ON IT!!!
If the boat is in halfway decent shape, you can get a motor for a reasonable
price and re-sell it if nothing else. Jaco Marine has a '99 Merc 200 EFI
listed for $5500.

I just looked at http://www.nadaguides.com and they list an 04 Reata (of
course they include trailer, trolling motor and outboard) at $17,830 in
average shape.

So, you could spend $6,700 and have a boat worth almost $18,000.00? It
seems to be a no-brainer to me. Replacing carpet if needed wouldn't be a
big deal, you might have to replace some wiring, but still......

I'd do a little more investigating if I were you.
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Well Steve, it looks as though that one got away....
http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/HI05168.htm I was thinking the same
thing though as you, but my thing is the money to put up front for it and
how much it would take just to get it fishing. (Mortgage and kids you know)
I was more looking for a project boat that I could put little bits and
pieces together a little at a time. There's a lot of deals on Bass Boats
out there from the hurricane though.

I called those people at that site and inquired about that boat, and it was
indeed needing a little bit of fiberglass work as well, and the bilge was
pretty full of mud the guy said. Regardless that would still be worth a
hard look indeed.

Anyway, I appreciate the time you took in replying!

Doug



Good lord, if you can get an 04 Ranger Reata for $1,200.00, JUMP ON IT!!!
If the boat is in halfway decent shape, you can get a motor for a
reasonable price and re-sell it if nothing else. Jaco Marine has a '99
Merc 200 EFI listed for $5500.

I just looked at http://www.nadaguides.com and they list an 04 Reata (of
course they include trailer, trolling motor and outboard) at $17,830 in
average shape.

So, you could spend $6,700 and have a boat worth almost $18,000.00? It
seems to be a no-brainer to me. Replacing carpet if needed wouldn't be a
big deal, you might have to replace some wiring, but still......

I'd do a little more investigating if I were you.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:23:10 -0600, "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers"
sent into the ether:


"Doug" wrote in message
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That's true.... I guess it has been some time that these motors have
been subjected the elements now, inside and out. Seems like such a waste
though that all these newer boats and motors are just trash now. I seen a
19' 2004 Ranger Reata with a 200 HP 4 stroke ( thought it was a 150)with
some damage for $1200.00, and the motor was said to be siezed up, and the
hull had a few scrapes on it, nothing major, is why I was asking. I guess
I had my head in the clouds a bit dreaming of a newer bass boat. Just not
at the expense of a whole new motor AND all the cosmetics it will need.

Thanks just the same though for taking the time,

Doug

P.S.

Anyone else getting cabin fever?? I've been out a couple times, but not
enough to keep my sanity I'm afraid

Good lord, if you can get an 04 Ranger Reata for $1,200.00, JUMP ON IT!!!
If the boat is in halfway decent shape, you can get a motor for a reasonable
price and re-sell it if nothing else. Jaco Marine has a '99 Merc 200 EFI
listed for $5500.

I just looked at http://www.nadaguides.com and they list an 04 Reata (of
course they include trailer, trolling motor and outboard) at $17,830 in
average shape.

So, you could spend $6,700 and have a boat worth almost $18,000.00? It
seems to be a no-brainer to me. Replacing carpet if needed wouldn't be a
big deal, you might have to replace some wiring, but still......

I'd do a little more investigating if I were you.

That sounds like a good idea untill you try to determine what
chemicals or waste products it was soaked in. If a guy knew what the
boat had been exposed to it would be worth it.
I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!

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That sounds like a good idea untill you try to determine what
chemicals or waste products it was soaked in. If a guy knew what the
boat had been exposed to it would be worth it.
I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!



It wouldn't really matter to me. I mean, how much can it cost to replace
the carpets and seats? $1,000? Rinse/pressure wash the rest with a
detergent and plenty of fresh water. Re-wire the boat? Maybe another
$1,000.00

So 8 or 9 grand is spent. You now have a boat that's worth twice that.
Still seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Doug,

It's difficult to answer your question. It really depends on how long
the engine was under water and, more important, how long was it out of
water before they did anything to it. Normally, the first thing you do
to an engine as soon as it comes out of the water is flush it with
fresh water, drain all the water, fuel and oil out, and if you can
refill everything and start it ASAP. If not "pickle" the engine (fill
it with some kind of oil) to prevent rusting.