Nothin Small About My Smallie

Went prefishin today as Thundercat's coming down Sunday for some bed-fishing
lessons. I was scanning a shoreline when I saw a huge bed in about 8 feet
of water. It was clearly a smallmouth bed as the LM beds in this lake look
entirely different & are generally shallower. There was an ominous dark
shape on the bed, but at first I thought it too big to be a bass. A carp
maybe?

I flipped my 3" Zoom Tube on the bed & was thrilled to see the fish rush it
immediately. No carp baby! I felt a solid thump on my line & set the hook,
nothing. I reeled in & fixed the tube, dipped in in Smelly Jelly & pitched
it back to the center of the bed. This time I just held my rod still with a
semi-tight line & it slowly moved off to the right. I set hard & the big
gal launched about a foot out of the water. She was huge, easily the
biggest smallie I've ever hooked.

After a breif battle I landed her. Sadly I had no scales but she may have
gone 7 pounds, 6 at least. Made my day, ok my week. What a gorgeous fish.
Hopefully she'll still be there when Harry comes down Sunday.

Warren 8-)
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Welcome to the seven pound SM club Warren!
Mine was 7.2 on a digital scale, opening day, two or three year ago now.
I think I told you about it at the time it happened, awesome isn't it!
--
Stony

"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Went prefishin today as Thundercat's coming down Sunday for some
bed-fishing
lessons. I was scanning a shoreline when I saw a huge bed in about 8 feet
of water. It was clearly a smallmouth bed as the LM beds in this lake
look
entirely different & are generally shallower. There was an ominous dark
shape on the bed, but at first I thought it too big to be a bass. A carp
maybe?

I flipped my 3" Zoom Tube on the bed & was thrilled to see the fish rush
it
immediately. No carp baby! I felt a solid thump on my line & set the
hook,
nothing. I reeled in & fixed the tube, dipped in in Smelly Jelly &
pitched
it back to the center of the bed. This time I just held my rod still with
a
semi-tight line & it slowly moved off to the right. I set hard & the big
gal launched about a foot out of the water. She was huge, easily the
biggest smallie I've ever hooked.

After a breif battle I landed her. Sadly I had no scales but she may have
gone 7 pounds, 6 at least. Made my day, ok my week. What a gorgeous
fish.
Hopefully she'll still be there when Harry comes down Sunday.

Warren 8-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com







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Awww, the fun of that "special moment"! That's what we spend all the
other hours getting ready for, hu Warren? Nice fish guy!
John

lol John, not to mention $$$$$$$...

WW;-)

"John Kerr" wrote in message
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Awww, the fun of that "special moment"! That's what we spend all the
other hours getting ready for, hu Warren? Nice fish guy!
John

All I could do was hold it in amazement Steve, I know what you mean brother.
This lake's bben kicking out some 5's the last few years, I hope the growth
continues. I only wish I was filming when that girl went airborne, that was
awesome. Talk about strong!

Warren
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"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
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Welcome to the seven pound SM club Warren!
Mine was 7.2 on a digital scale, opening day, two or three year ago now.
I think I told you about it at the time it happened, awesome isn't it!
--
Stony

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Went prefishin today as Thundercat's coming down Sunday for some
bed-fishing
lessons. I was scanning a shoreline when I saw a huge bed in about 8
feet
of water. It was clearly a smallmouth bed as the LM beds in this lake
look
entirely different & are generally shallower. There was an ominous dark
shape on the bed, but at first I thought it too big to be a bass. A
carp
maybe?

I flipped my 3" Zoom Tube on the bed & was thrilled to see the fish rush
it
immediately. No carp baby! I felt a solid thump on my line & set the
hook,
nothing. I reeled in & fixed the tube, dipped in in Smelly Jelly &
pitched
it back to the center of the bed. This time I just held my rod still
with
a
semi-tight line & it slowly moved off to the right. I set hard & the
big
gal launched about a foot out of the water. She was huge, easily the
biggest smallie I've ever hooked.

After a breif battle I landed her. Sadly I had no scales but she may
have
gone 7 pounds, 6 at least. Made my day, ok my week. What a gorgeous
fish.
Hopefully she'll still be there when Harry comes down Sunday.

Warren 8-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com







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First of all, it was likely a male, not a female, if there was only one fish
present. Females deposit eggs the male has built, the male then fertilizes
the eggs, and takes up watch. The female leaves. Absolutely no parental
care invested by female bass (neither smallmouth or largemouth). The male
stands guard over the eggs as well as the fry once they hatch, keeping
sunfish, minnows, and an assortment of other critters at bay until the fry
get to the size where they being to leave the nest on their own.

So - the second question to ask ...... just how many eggs or fry got gobbled
up in the 5 to 7 minutes it took for you to play the fish, land it,
photograph it, put it back, and have it return to the nest. Most scientific
studies show even a short period of time removed from the nest can result in
drastic fry predation.

Whether legal in your area or not, dedicated, concerned, and
conservation-minded anglers should seriously question whether it's ethical
to fish bedded bass, whether they should participate in such activities
themselves, and just what we want for the future of our bass fisheries.

See the following for more info :

http://www.basscanada.com/articles_p...mallmouth.html

http://afs.allenpress.com/afsonline/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1577%2F1548-8675(1997)017%3C0557:TIOCAR%3E2.3.CO%3B2

http://afs.allenpress.com/afsonline/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1577%2F1548-8675(1997)017%3C0568:PTEOAF%3E2.3.CO%3B2

http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~ael/ael_smb.html

http://aquanic.org/publicat/usda_rac/efs/srac/200fs.pdf






"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Went prefishin today as Thundercat's coming down Sunday for some
bed-fishing
lessons. I was scanning a shoreline when I saw a huge bed in about 8 feet
of water. It was clearly a smallmouth bed as the LM beds in this lake
look
entirely different & are generally shallower. There was an ominous dark
shape on the bed, but at first I thought it too big to be a bass. A carp
maybe?

I flipped my 3" Zoom Tube on the bed & was thrilled to see the fish rush
it
immediately. No carp baby! I felt a solid thump on my line & set the
hook,
nothing. I reeled in & fixed the tube, dipped in in Smelly Jelly &
pitched
it back to the center of the bed. This time I just held my rod still with
a
semi-tight line & it slowly moved off to the right. I set hard & the big
gal launched about a foot out of the water. She was huge, easily the
biggest smallie I've ever hooked.

After a breif battle I landed her. Sadly I had no scales but she may have
gone 7 pounds, 6 at least. Made my day, ok my week. What a gorgeous
fish.
Hopefully she'll still be there when Harry comes down Sunday.

Warren 8-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com

On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:24:37 -0400, "Shawn"
wrote:

First of all,
SNIP BLA

Yep, I'll bet it was the only bass in the lake too. I'll bet that it
has never spawned before either. I'll bet that Warren single handedly
destroyed the future of this lake. How will it ever recover?
/sarcasm

From what I saw first hand, it doesn't appear that years of bed
fishing have hurt this fishery at all. Generalizations generally do
not apply to all situations. Treat each fishery as an individual and
manage it accordingly. It looks to me like this private fishery has
been managed just fine.

My 2 cents...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

"Thundercat" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:24:37 -0400, "Shawn"
wrote:

First of all,
SNIP BLA

Yep, I'll bet it was the only bass in the lake too. I'll bet that it
has never spawned before either. I'll bet that Warren single handedly
destroyed the future of this lake. How will it ever recover?
/sarcasm

From what I saw first hand, it doesn't appear that years of bed
fishing have hurt this fishery at all. Generalizations generally do
not apply to all situations. Treat each fishery as an individual and
manage it accordingly. It looks to me like this private fishery has
been managed just fine.

My 2 cents...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

There is no closed season in California, and we seem to not be running out
of bass. The spawn in the Sac Delta takes a couple of months, so where
would you draw the line as to fishing?

Here are some abstracts from scientific research papers in the book Black
Bass: Ecology, Conservation, and Management,. American Fisheries Society
Symposium 31. Edited by David P. Philipp and Mark S. Ridgway. ISBN:
1-888569-38-7. Published January 2003

The Use of Sanctuaries for Protecting Nesting Black Bass from Angling (Pages
371-378)

Cory D. Suski, Frank J. S. Phelan, Mark F. Kubacki, and David P. Philipp

Catch-and-release angling for bass during the brood-guarding stage can
induce premature nest abandonment by the male parent, resulting in loss of
the brood to predation. Significant levels of angling-induced brood loss can
cause a population-level decrease in reproductive success. If that decrease
in reproductive success translates into a decrease in recruitment, the
population density and/or size structure of the bass population may be
affected negatively. To avoid these potential problems, managers in some
parts of North America have implemented regulations designed to protect
nesting male bass while they are spawning and guarding their young. The
purpose of this study was to determine if Voluntary Bass Conservation Zones
(areas within a lake that are closed voluntarily to all angling until the
bass spawning season is over) could be used to protect these highly
vulnerable bass from angling. Our results demonstrate first that with
sufficient levels of advertisement and community enforcement, a Voluntary
Bass Conservation Zone can both reduce levels of angling for nesting bass
and increase the reproductive success of the bass population within the
zone. They demonstrate second, however, that a Voluntary Bass Conservation
Zone that is not properly enforced can actually decrease bass reproductive
success by attracting unscrupulous anglers to bass spawning areas, thereby
increasing levels of angling for nesting bass.



How Well Does a Closed Season Protect Spawning Bass in Ontario (Pages
379-386)

Mark F. Kubacki, Frank J. S. Phelan, Julie E. Claussen, and David P. Philipp

Current management strategies for largemouth and smallmouth bass sometimes
incorporate seasonal closures in spring/early summer to protect bass during
their reproductive periods. Our 12-year (1990-2001) field study investigated
how well southern Ontario's closed bass fishing season matched the
reproductive periods of nesting male largemouth bass Micropterus salmoides
and smallmouth bass M. dolomieu in two lakes and two rivers in the region.
Study areas within each system consisted of two-kilometer stretches of
shoreline in which bass reproductive activity was monitored visually by
divers. The data collected for each nesting male included species, egg
deposition date, level of mating success, duration of parental care, and
whether that male was successful or unsuccessful at producing surviving
offspring to the free-swimming independent fry stage. Our results
demonstrate that the extent of protection afforded nesting male bass through
the use of the closed season varied significantly among water bodies and
among years, reflecting the variation in spring warming rates. Smallmouth
bass guarded their broods at the nest site significantly longer than
largemouth bass and were, therefore, vulnerable to anglers longer. In
addition, visual surveys of angling activity revealed that angler
noncompliance with this regulation was common and even pervasive at some
sites. The annual and geographic variation in the extent of protection
afforded by the uniform seasonal closure indicates that a refinement of that
regulation may be beneficial. Furthermore, the substantial levels of
preseason angling observed in several of the study sites indicate that some
other method of protection (e.g., sanctuaries or total closed seasons) may
be more effective in many instances.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Went prefishin today as Thundercat's coming down Sunday for some
bed-fishing
lessons. I was scanning a shoreline when I saw a huge bed in about 8 feet
of water. It was clearly a smallmouth bed as the LM beds in this lake
look
entirely different & are generally shallower. There was an ominous dark
shape on the bed, but at first I thought it too big to be a bass. A carp
maybe?

I flipped my 3" Zoom Tube on the bed & was thrilled to see the fish rush
it
immediately. No carp baby! I felt a solid thump on my line & set the
hook,
nothing. I reeled in & fixed the tube, dipped in in Smelly Jelly &
pitched
it back to the center of the bed. This time I just held my rod still with
a
semi-tight line & it slowly moved off to the right. I set hard & the big
gal launched about a foot out of the water. She was huge, easily the
biggest smallie I've ever hooked.

After a breif battle I landed her. Sadly I had no scales but she may have
gone 7 pounds, 6 at least. Made my day, ok my week. What a gorgeous
fish.
Hopefully she'll still be there when Harry comes down Sunday.

Warren 8-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com

I think one question to ask is "How many bass have to survive to consider the
spawn a successful one?"

Let's set up an imaginary bass lake that has the following characteristics:

(a) healthy bass population
(b) healthy forage base
(c) most fishermen practice catch and release

I'm no mathmetician, but it seems to me that if each and every adult bass is
able in its lifetime to produce only one single bass fingerling that grows to
maturity, then the bass population should remain more or less constant.

Fact is that every bass bed has jillions of eggs. We don't need -- in fact we
don't WANT -- all those fry to survive. It seems to me that if too many fry
survive to fingerlings, then on to adults, we'd have too much pressure on the
forage fish and we'd see the size of the average bass decrease.

Again -- I'm no scientist so take this with several grains of salt -- but I
can't see how bed fishing will hurt.

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