fawn lake "pertinacious" throwdown

ken fortenberry initially said there wasn't a fawn lake in yellowstone,
that it was a fantasy (or something similar)...ultimately, faced with
the overwhelming proof from others and the yellowstone map that there is
indeed a fawn lake, he retreated to an acknowledgment of its existence,
but boldly asserted it is basically nothing more than a soggy weed-bed
at some point after ice-out. he basically calls me and 3 other
eyewitnesses liars about the lake and the fish in it. so... here's the
deal...

on any day to be set between july 9-17, 2005, i invite any fawn lake
non-believer or pessimist, including yellowstone kenny, to take a hike
with me to fawn lake for the purpose of catching the brook trout
resident in the lake. if it's a soggy weed bed, i'll walk/slog to its
center and allow photo proof of kenny's claim. likewise, if in fact
there is a fawn lake, each nonbeliever shall swim to its center so i can
take a picture.

better yet, if kenny accepts this challenge and chooses to come for the
day...should he prove me wrong, i will reimburse his plane fare, buy him
a meal or pay him $20, and publicly acknowledge i was wrong and he was
right. on the other hand, if i'm proven correct that fawn lake is more
than a soggy weed-choked puddle, kenny will swim to its center for
photos, pay me $20, publicly admit here that he was wrong, and apologize
in writing mailed to me for calling me, joe, choc, and warren liars (i'd
never expect an apology on roff). if he doesn't want to walk to the
lake, we can rent horses (about $250 each for the day), and loser also
pays for the other's horse rental.

btw, for pessimists, here's what craig mathews says about fawn lake:

"You can reach this five-acre brook trout lake from the Glen Creek
Trailhead, 5 miles south of Mammoth, near the Golden Gate."

from Craig Mathews and Clayton Molinero's "Yellowstone Fly-Fishing Guide".


seems to me a fair way to settle the matter... what say you?

jeff (pertinacious maybe, but not a liar)

jeff typed:
ken fortenberry initially said there wasn't a fawn lake in
yellowstone, that it was a fantasy (or something
similar)...
snip
on any day to be set between july 9-17, 2005, i invite any fawn lake
non-believer or pessimist, including yellowstone kenny, to take a hike
with me to fawn lake for the purpose of catching the brook trout
resident in the lake. if it's a soggy weed bed, i'll walk/slog to its
center and allow photo proof of kenny's claim. likewise, if in fact
there is a fawn lake, each nonbeliever shall swim to its center so i
can take a picture.

better yet, if kenny accepts this challenge and chooses to come for
the day...should he prove me wrong, i will reimburse his plane fare,
buy him a meal or pay him $20, and publicly acknowledge i was wrong
and he was right.

Wow - if you'll do all that for someone calling you a liar, what will you do
for *me*? Contrary to Ken's facts, I choose to believe my lyin' eyes and
accept there is a Fawn Lake. Buy my plane ticket, feed me, and take me
horseback riding and I'll stand on my head in Fawn Lake. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim, the 'clave whore
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Better crank up the Wayback Machine if you intend to be there in July
2005.

On 9 May 2006 05:28:44 -0700, "George Adams"
wrote:

Better crank up the Wayback Machine if you intend to be there in July
2005.

Oh, man, you mean he can't actually do it? Damn. I was planning on
making Gates AND Buffett green with envy..."...billionaires? Well,
sure, that's nice and all, but when you girls get some REAL scratch
gathered up, come over and join me in the Trillionaire's section of the
club...I'll vibrate y'all up a cocktail..."

TC,
R

George Adams wrote:
Better crank up the Wayback Machine if you intend to be there in July
2005.

duh...should be 2006....but, you knew that. g

jeff

Tim J. wrote:
jeff typed:
snip
better yet, if kenny accepts this challenge and chooses to come for
the day...

... I'll stand on my head in Fawn Lake. ;-)

That's a good way to get a nose full of weeds Timmmaaay.

I know it's hard to believe I could pass on such a gracious,
heartfelt and generous invitation from the divorce lawyer
but I have at least three good reasons for doing so; time,
place and dumb.

If I were going to Yellowstone to fish I'd go in late August
early September and I wouldn't waste my time anywhere in the
vicinity of that so-called lake. That's time and place, as
for the dumb, if fishing is what you're after the only thing
dumber than hiking up to that so-called lake once is hiking
up there twice.

But I am looking forward to the trip report !

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Tim J. wrote:

jeff typed:

snip
better yet, if kenny accepts this challenge and chooses to come for
the day...


... I'll stand on my head in Fawn Lake. ;-)


That's a good way to get a nose full of weeds Timmmaaay.

I know it's hard to believe I could pass on such a gracious,
heartfelt and generous invitation from the divorce lawyer
but I have at least three good reasons for doing so; time,
place and dumb.

If I were going to Yellowstone to fish I'd go in late August
early September and I wouldn't waste my time anywhere in the
vicinity of that so-called lake. That's time and place, as
for the dumb, if fishing is what you're after the only thing
dumber than hiking up to that so-called lake once is hiking
up there twice.

But I am looking forward to the trip report !


yeah, right. it's the brilliant life that's spent sitting in illinois
chirping nonsense, fishing the ponds and lakes of "chambana".

tell you what then ol' kennie-pooh, let's bet late august/early
september plane tickets (you pick the time you think is best) and the
cost of the horse ride to fawn lake.

if you're right that it's just a soggy weed bed with no fish, i'll
reimburse your plane fare and the horse ride and i'll publicly admit
here you were right; if i'm right that it's a bona-fide lake (about 5
acres size) with fish in it, you'll reimburse my plane fare and horse
ride and publicly admit here that you were wrong. i'm sure you have
loads of friends and admirers out there who will put you up for free.

so? if you've the certainty in your claims, you'll get to go to
yellowstone at your preferred time of the year for free, you'll spend
part of only one day out west in a pretty place but with plenty of time
left over in the day to go sit on your favorite barstool, and you can
brag endlessly how you prevailed over yet another "divorce lawyer".
hell, a brilliant journalist like you could probably twist the whole
thing into an award-winning freelance story and make a few bucks.

jeff

On Tue, 09 May 2006 21:33:59 -0400, jeff wrote:

let's bet late august/early
september plane tickets

I'm planning on being out there the 1st 2 weeks in September this year, maybe
all month, and would be happy to take some photos of the event - provided I
could stand being in 40's company long enough.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Charlie Choc wrote:

I'm planning on being out there the 1st 2 weeks in September this year, maybe
all month, and would be happy to take some photos of the event - provided I
could stand being in 40's company long enough.

**** you, Choc.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Tue, 09 May 2006 08:05:06 -0400, jeff wrote:

ken fortenberry initially said there wasn't a fawn lake in yellowstone,
that it was a fantasy (or something similar)...ultimately, faced with
the overwhelming proof from others and the yellowstone map that there is
indeed a fawn lake, he retreated to an acknowledgment of its existence,
but boldly asserted it is basically nothing more than a soggy weed-bed
at some point after ice-out. he basically calls me and 3 other
eyewitnesses liars about the lake and the fish in it. so... here's the
deal...

on any day to be set between july 9-17, 2005, i invite any fawn lake
non-believer or pessimist, including yellowstone kenny, to take a hike
with me to fawn lake for the purpose of catching the brook trout
resident in the lake. if it's a soggy weed bed, i'll walk/slog to its
center and allow photo proof of kenny's claim. likewise, if in fact
there is a fawn lake, each nonbeliever shall swim to its center so i can
take a picture.

Screw all this waterwalking, horses, and swimming stuff...if you can
even get close to what you are proposing, I'll supply a briefcase full
of cas...er, bright, shiny beads and let's set a date sometime in about
July, 1405. Then, we find us some Indians with a deed to
Manhat...actually, that's small thinking...let's find any Indian with a
deed - hell, the whole CUS (hey, if need be, I'll supply 2, even 3
briefcases full of wampum), and then, you can HAVE friggin' Fawn Lake,
whatever it is, as part of your 10%. And if there is no lake, how much
could it cost to put one in?

HTW, (that's "Hope this works,")
R