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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:47 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Muskoka Fisherman
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I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long. Do
larger fish hang out in the same areas as the smaller fish? or should
I be going somewhere else to fish for the big ones?

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Old June 11th, 2007, 04:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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"Muskoka Fisherman" wrote in message
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I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long. Do
larger fish hang out in the same areas as the smaller fish? or should
I be going somewhere else to fish for the big ones?


Its popularly believed by some that big fish tend to be solitary hunters.
That is not to say there can't be two or three big fish relatively close
together if there are two or three great cover/ambush spots near each other
and lots of bait goes by that area.


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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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On Jun 10, 10:47 pm, Muskoka Fisherman
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I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long.


That, my friends, is what you call a drive-by gloat. 2.5 - 3.5 lb
bass all day that far North is pretty darned impressive.

Dick Durbin

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Old June 12th, 2007, 02:40 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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"Olebiker" wrote in message ps.com...
On Jun 10, 10:47 pm, Muskoka Fisherman
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I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long.


That, my friends, is what you call a drive-by gloat. 2.5 - 3.5 lb
bass all day that far North is pretty darned impressive.

Dick Durbin



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Old June 11th, 2007, 06:14 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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Default Small fish near big fish?

On Jun 10, 10:47 pm, Muskoka Fisherman
wrote:
I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long. Do
larger fish hang out in the same areas as the smaller fish? or should
I be going somewhere else to fish for the big ones?


You probably need to go to a different lake if all you are catching is
little dinks like that - the lake is probably not very good for bigger
bass.

Ronnie

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Old June 12th, 2007, 02:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Bob La Londe
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Default Small fish near big fish?

"Muskoka Fisherman" wrote in message
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I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long. Do
larger fish hang out in the same areas as the smaller fish? or should
I be going somewhere else to fish for the big ones?


One other thing... sometimes you can limit your smaller fish and keep your
hook open for bigger fish by upsizing. For instance I catch tons of dinks
on 4" senkos, a fair number of keepers on 5" senkos and a few larger fish to
toad size, but no dinks and very few small keepers on 7" senkos

A large jig and pig are also often considered a big fish bait. Big profile,
big fish.

I know a fellow who cranks with hand carved channel cat swim baits that run
8-14" and he catches nothing, but quality fish. He just doesn't catch that
many.


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Old June 12th, 2007, 03:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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Default Small fish near big fish?

Thanks for the advice. I'll try to up the size of my lures and maybe
try some jig and pigs tool

Top water lures in weeds near drop offs have been working for me very
well this year.

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Old June 12th, 2007, 03:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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"Muskoka Fisherman" wrote in message
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to up the size of my lures and maybe
try some jig and pigs tool

Top water lures in weeds near drop offs have been working for me very
well this year.


If you have been using a small popper try a frog or a larger popper.
Something that looks like a meal to a big bass. You might not catch as
many...

When I am fun fishing though there is nothing like getting into a mess of
fish any size. Another thing. If you just want to have fun consider
downsizing your tackle. A 13" bass on a microlite spooled with 4 or 6 pound
test is a lot of fun to fight.


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Old June 17th, 2007, 04:21 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Ouachita
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Default Small fish near big fish?

On Jun 10, 9:47 pm, Muskoka Fisherman
wrote:
I was out fishing today catching 2.5 -3.5 lb bass all day long. Do
larger fish hang out in the same areas as the smaller fish? or should
I be going somewhere else to fish for the big ones?


Bass tend to hang together according to age and stick close to where
they hatched. They roam but tend to prefer their old neighborhood. The
older they get the more familiar they are with surroundings, and the
more they become familiar with the majority of basic bass angling and
popular lures. Little bass get eaten by larger bass, hence the
popularity of bass pattern lures.

The age group you were into are the upper end of the group willing to
chase schools of shad or other baitfish. Ads they get older they break
from such spending of vital fat, beginning to conserve calories,
preparing for winter more efficiently. They become more opportunistic,
doing more ambushing of larger fish like bream, crappie, larger trout.
When smaller bass are fairly shallow, look for the lunkers deeper.
They seek more security from larger predators like us. That puts them
out of sight most of the year until the spawn at a time most anglers
get their one shot at them in their most vulnerable condition. In
summer you will fins more quality bass in 15 foot water and deeper,
but never deeper than a thermocline. Favorite places are near their
winter haunts, around complicated bottom structure, deep stumps,
intersections of drainages like a creek and a ditch draining a flat
with steep outside slopes. Mid lake humps and ridges near deep water
are good where the hump pokes above the thermocline. Relatively few
anglers try those places, so the bass there are not as pressured as
shallow bass 15' deep.

Lots of big bass have been caught before and learn to avoid artificial
lures. Make sure you fish them convincingly and slowly and try bumping
every rock, stump, ditch slope, bend of a creek, brush pile, sunken
boat, etc. Bottom crawling & bouncing lures are excellent choices. Big
bass love finding large crayfish so imitate those. The larger jigs
with fat trailers best imitate crayfish, but so do craw patterned long
billed crankbaits even in shallower water than it seems proper to use
them. A deep diver that can reach 20 feet works wonders in 10 feet
because it digs bottom and clamors over and through rocks. Try to
match the colors and largest sizes of crayfish in your fishery. It's a
slow technique inching a craw bait along bottom and only occasionally
leaping it up a few feet. Dragging through mud to put up a mud trail
works.

Spoons work well. Bass don't see many of those. Heavy 1.5 oz
spinnerbaits are good fished down the center of a creek in deep water.
Use one with large Colorado blade, and go with black body/skirt/
trailer/blade colors. Verify the presence of fish with sonar before
investing much time over a spot. if you see a school of baitfish or
panfish over structure or around cover like submerged trees there's
likely bass nearby. Whatever you hear are top favorite baits are
probably spooking big bass by the time you get that news. Think out of
the box and choose something that will get down to large bass that
hand below smaller bass, holding a depth when retrieved. You don't
want a lure that comes up when retrieved until it's at the boat. Bring
a spinnerbait up slowly, pausing it several times, and dangle it next
to the boat before casting it. Big bass will often follow something
like that and hit it at the last possible chance.

Jim

 




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