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Old July 8th, 2007, 02:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
John
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Hi guys and gals,

What is the best knot ( using braid "Power Pro" ) for tying on a
Rapala type minnow? I seem to mess up using a palomar. I used to use a
loop knot with mono but found that I was wasting a ton of line.

This is a neat site for knots if you have not all ready seen it.

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfi...e=LogoGrog.jpg

Thanks,
John

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Old July 8th, 2007, 04:48 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi guys and gals,

What is the best knot ( using braid "Power Pro" ) for tying on a
Rapala type minnow? I seem to mess up using a palomar. I used to use a
loop knot with mono but found that I was wasting a ton of line.

This is a neat site for knots if you have not all ready seen it.

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfi...e=LogoGrog.jpg


Hi John,

I've been using PowerPro for well over a decade now and I use two knots, the
Palomar and the Improved Clinch knot. A standard clinch or even an Improved
Clinch tied conventionally will slip using PowerPro. I tie the Improved
Clinch with seven wraps of the tag end around the mainline. This knot
doesn't slip for me.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 04:14 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Bob La Londe
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi guys and gals,

What is the best knot ( using braid "Power Pro" ) for tying on a
Rapala type minnow? I seem to mess up using a palomar. I used to use a
loop knot with mono but found that I was wasting a ton of line.

This is a neat site for knots if you have not all ready seen it.

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfi...e=LogoGrog.jpg


Hi John,

I've been using PowerPro for well over a decade now and I use two knots,
the Palomar and the Improved Clinch knot. A standard clinch or even an
Improved Clinch tied conventionally will slip using PowerPro. I tie the
Improved Clinch with seven wraps of the tag end around the mainline. This
knot doesn't slip for me.


I teach people how to tie the improved clinch knot (sometimes called the
Trilene knot) and if they are total clutzes I'll then show them the palomar
knot. I have had much better luck over all with braid, mono, and
flourocarbon with the trilene knot. I think the world's fair knot would
also work pretty well for braid, but its not any easier for folks to learn
than the improved clinch/trilene knot.

The biggest thing is to make sure to wet the line and slide the knot down
very tight and leave about 1/4" of tag end sticking out.

Steve, I have found for lines 12 pound diameter or less 7 1/2 wraps works
best for me too. For 14 pound and larger I have found the knot is to big
and bulky (depending on the line type) and can be hard to pull down tight.
Usually I have to drop back to five wraps for larger diameter lines.

A couple of the guys I know that flip the Ca Delta use a knot called a
double palomar, but I have not figured out exactly what that is. I have
seen it tied and its a big knot though.


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Old July 8th, 2007, 04:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Bob La Londe
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I teach people how to tie the improved clinch knot (sometimes called the
Trilene knot) and if they are total clutzes I'll then show them the
palomar knot. I have had much better luck over all with braid, mono, and
flourocarbon with the trilene knot. I think the world's fair knot would
also work pretty well for braid, but its not any easier for folks to learn
than the improved clinch/trilene knot.



Hmmmm.... I see that website calls a simple tuck back an improved clinch
knot. I always called a double pass through an improved clinch knot.
Interesting.


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Old July 8th, 2007, 04:51 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Rodney Long
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Bob La Londe wrote:

Hmmmm.... I see that website calls a simple tuck back an improved clinch
knot. I always called a double pass through an improved clinch knot.
Interesting.



Yours is what's called the Trilene knot which is a "super" improved
clinch knot

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Old July 8th, 2007, 10:48 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
John
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On Jul 7, 11:51 pm, Rodney Long wrote:
Bob La Londe wrote:
Hmmmm.... I see that website calls a simple tuck back an improved clinch
knot. I always called a double pass through an improved clinch knot.
Interesting.


Yours is what's called the Trilene knot which is a "super" improved
clinch knot

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Great advice guys thanks.

Regards,
John

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Old July 14th, 2007, 06:52 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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If you think about the mechanics of the Palomar knot, anything else would
not make any sense. It's as good as it's going to get as it is.

Doug

..

A couple of the guys I know that flip the Ca Delta use a knot called a
double palomar, but I have not figured out exactly what that is. I have
seen it tied and its a big knot though.


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Old July 19th, 2007, 12:51 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
John
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On Jul 14, 1:52 am, "Doug" wrote:
If you think about the mechanics of the Palomar knot, anything else would
not make any sense. It's as good as it's going to get as it is.

Doug

.





A couple of the guys I know that flip the Ca Delta use a knot called a
double palomar, but I have not figured out exactly what that is. I have
seen it tied and its a big knot though.


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I was just thinking what about a UNI knot?

John

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Old July 11th, 2007, 04:10 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Joe Haubenreich
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A fellow heading up to Ontario asked me the same question last Saturday. He
spooled up some spinning reels with PowerPro, and I showed him how to tie
the Braid Knot.

Loop your line and insert the loop through the lure eye. Then lay the loop
alongside the doubled line (standing end and tag end). Turn the loop back
down toward the lure. Holding the doubled line and the doubled loop in your
right hand, make four or five turns around both doubled lines, working down
toward the lure. Finally, insert the looped end between the doubled lines
(between the eye and the coils) and cinch it down slowly. Cut off the loop
down by the lure and the tag end up above.

If I had to explain how to peel a banana, we would all starve to death! Just
go to http://www.bassresource.com/fish/knots.html for an illustration. It's
really very simple, doesn't slip, and I've never had it break, probably
because everything is doubled..

Joe
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"John" asked: Hi guys and gals,

What is the best knot ( using braid "Power Pro" ) for tying on a
Rapala type minnow? snip


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Old July 12th, 2007, 05:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
John
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On Jul 10, 11:10 pm, "Joe Haubenreich"
wrote:
A fellow heading up to Ontario asked me the same question last Saturday. He
spooled up some spinning reels with PowerPro, and I showed him how to tie
the Braid Knot.

Loop your line and insert the loop through the lure eye. Then lay the loop
alongside the doubled line (standing end and tag end). Turn the loop back
down toward the lure. Holding the doubled line and the doubled loop in your
right hand, make four or five turns around both doubled lines, working down
toward the lure. Finally, insert the looped end between the doubled lines
(between the eye and the coils) and cinch it down slowly. Cut off the loop
down by the lure and the tag end up above.

If I had to explain how to peel a banana, we would all starve to death! Just
go tohttp://www.bassresource.com/fish/knots.htmlfor an illustration. It's
really very simple, doesn't slip, and I've never had it break, probably
because everything is doubled..

Joe
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"John" asked: Hi guys and gals,

What is the best knot ( using braid "Power Pro" ) for tying on a
Rapala type minnow? snip


Thanks Joe,

John

 




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