Put and Kill -so disgusting

I find this extremely depressing on many levels.

I was out of town for a couple of days in the middle of last week. I
got home and knew that they were supposed to complete the fall
stocking for Elk Creek in Cecil County Maryland. They did. On Friday
afternoon they completed it. They put a lot of nice fish in the
creek. Me, and two other fly fisherman must have a caught a dozen
fish. Most of them were in the 12 to 15 inch range. That was
amazing! Even more amazing was the fact that within a couple of hours
of going into the water they were going after woolly buggers! Of the
12 or so fish we caught, one guy kept one.

I fished again on Sunday for a while and the vast majority of the fish
were gone! One guy had 5 real nice ones on a stringer laying in
shallow water.

Now I know put-and-take has it's place in fisheries management but
these fish could have been there all winter. The water temps are
right. The food might be a little scarce for that many fish but we
could have had fun catching them for the next 5 months!

I'm not a fan of PETA but I also see no point in pushing fish to a
slow death of suffocation.

Maybe I'm misguided but that mentality seems so selfish, so short
sighted? I know this is the reality but….? Maybe all streams should
have delayed harvest for a couple of weeks after stocking. That would
allow the people who want to CATCH fish a chance to do so before the
meat men arrive and yank them all out of the water for good.
Any comments?

Gene C wrote in message . ..
I find this extremely depressing on many levels.


timbo must have lost his isp.

wayno

Wayne Harrison wrote:

Gene C wrote in message . ..

I find this extremely depressing on many levels.



timbo must have lost his isp.

Although it's probably a troll, I'll take it up.


I assume from your post that the trout put in that stream can't live
through the Summer. So you want the fish left in the stream so they'll
die from temps that are too high to support them just so you can have
fun catching them? Who's the one that's selfish and short sighted?

I'm not a fan of put and take fisheries. I would much prefer that the
funds spent there be used for improving self sustaining fisheries. In
put and take waters, harvesting the fish before they die seems very
appropriate to me.

Willi

Gene C wrote:

... Even more amazing was the fact that within a couple of hours
of going into the water they were going after woolly buggers! ...

What's amazing about that ? A wooly bugger is a spot on imitation
of a trout chow pellet. You may as well be using power bait.

Maybe I'm misguided ...

Do you think ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

From: Ken Fortenberry

What's amazing about that ? A wooly bugger is a spot on imitation
of a trout chow pellet. You may as well be using power bait.

Huh? I've never yet seen a Wooly Bugger that looks even remotely like Trout
Chow. In my experience freshly stocked trout will attack anything with a lot of
action and/or flash. He would likely have done as well with any streamer.

You may be confusing a Wooly Bugger with a Glo-Bug, which is an egg imitation.
In the smaller sizes, trout could take one to be a pellet. You gotta lay off
the dries a bit and do a little dredging with the rest of us, so you can get
your pattern identification straight. G


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

"George Adams" wrote in message
...
From: Ken Fortenberry

What's amazing about that ? A wooly bugger is a spot on imitation
of a trout chow pellet. You may as well be using power bait.

Huh? I've never yet seen a Wooly Bugger that looks even remotely like
Trout
Chow. In my experience freshly stocked trout will attack anything with a
lot of
action and/or flash. He would likely have done as well with any streamer.


So that begs the question why would anyone go fishing after freshly stocked
trout unless they wanted to stroke their ego or to stock a freezer.

Paul

"Paul Goodwin" wrote in message
...

"George Adams" wrote in message
...
From: Ken Fortenberry

What's amazing about that ? A wooly bugger is a spot on imitation
of a trout chow pellet. You may as well be using power bait.

Huh? I've never yet seen a Wooly Bugger that looks even remotely
like
Trout
Chow. In my experience freshly stocked trout will attack anything
with a
lot of
action and/or flash. He would likely have done as well with any
streamer.


So that begs the question why would anyone go fishing after freshly
stocked
trout unless they wanted to stroke their ego or to stock a freezer.

Paul

Well, it beats sitting at home watching football, soccer, baseball,
hockey, golf, auto racing, or horse racing.

Wolfgang
women's volleyball, on the other hand..........

Paul Goodwin wrote:

So that begs the question why would anyone go fishing after freshly stocked
trout unless they wanted to stroke their ego or to stock a freezer.

The original poster said he wanted to play with his food ...
for 5 months !

--
Ken Fortenberry

From: "Paul Goodwin"


So that begs the question why would anyone go fishing after freshly stocked
trout unless they wanted to stroke their ego or to stock a freezer.

Well, it ain't much of an ego stroker, so it must be to stock the freezer. Kind
of hard to avoid that situation on C&R water, though. I usually fish areas
where they don't normally stock, if I know a stream has been freshly planted.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

"Paul Goodwin" wrote in message
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In my experience freshly stocked trout will attack anything with a
lot of
action and/or flash.

which brings to mind an experience that has always puzzled me. couple
years ago i was fishing the hatchery supported section of snowbird with my
youngest son, and as we geared up beside a beautiful run under a bridge that
ran about 10 feet above the creek, up drives the stocking truck, and the
guys start literally dumping trout from nets into the water. the fish made
belly flop sounds as they cascaded into the waist deep run. off goes the
truck, and ol' anthony says, sheepishly, "i don't suppose it would be right
to try to catch them, would it, dad?" to which i responded, "hell, son, the
only reason they are in the water is to be caught!", and told him to have at
it. i watched him as he manufactured one excellent float after another
right over the noses of several of the fish, who were lined up, facing
upstream, just sort of treading water. nothing doing. i finally applied my
(ahem!) deft, artful touch to the t&t, time after time, to no avail. long
story short: we tried six or eight combinations of dry flies, nymphs, and
boogers, and never moved a single fish.

explanations?

yfitons
wayno