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Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?



 
 
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Old October 9th, 2007, 05:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.
thanks,
-tom


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Old October 9th, 2007, 05:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in news:feg9ta$s23$1
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Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.
thanks,
-tom




Haven't tried it, but heard the speil from the Cortland Rep. They market
it as a modern replacement for silk lines on bamboo rods. I don't think it
would match up very well to graphite.


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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:57 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I don't think it would match up very well to graphite.


It matches just fine and dandy to the Winston IM6, BIIt, & DL4, Sage LL, or
the T&T LPS series of rods.


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Old October 9th, 2007, 07:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Tom Nakashima wrote:
Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.


I have a Cortland Sylk DT4 that I use on a bamboo rod.
It's great for delicate work, laying out a gentle 25
foot cast, but not good for distance or roll casting.
It's a very limp, and I mean *very* limp, fly line. I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.

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Old October 9th, 2007, 09:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.


I have a Cortland Sylk DT4 that I use on a bamboo rod.
It's great for delicate work, laying out a gentle 25
foot cast, but not good for distance or roll casting.
It's a very limp, and I mean *very* limp, fly line. I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.

--
Ken Fortenberry


How do you like the Phoenix Silk? Rollcast?
I just pulled up the Phoenix website,
so you dress the line accordingly? Sinking, floating?
Expensive line. $268.07 = 190.00 Euro for 7wt DT...think I
converted that right.
I'll probably stick with the conventional DT line for now, I enjoy
the rollcast.
-tom


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Old October 9th, 2007, 09:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.


How do you like the Phoenix Silk? Rollcast?
I just pulled up the Phoenix website,
so you dress the line accordingly? Sinking, floating?
Expensive line. $268.07 = 190.00 Euro for 7wt DT...think I
converted that right.
I'll probably stick with the conventional DT line for now, I enjoy
the rollcast.


It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)

I don't rollcast much and I don't fish anything other than
a floating line with the bamboo rod. I treat the silk with
Red Mucilin and when it starts to sink (5-6 hours of fishing)
I turn the DT around and fish the other end. I hang it up to
dry overnight, treat both ends again the next morning and
it's ready to go for 10-12 more hours of fishing.

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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

On Oct 9, 4:22 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)


I bought a Phoenix silk fly line several years ago with this same
mindset. Unfortunately, a mouse got into my fly fishing gear and
gnawed the silk line into several pieces. 1 out of 1 garage mice
prefer silk to plastic.

Is it just me or have silk lines gone way up in price in the last,
say, 5 years. Seems like I bought mine for $90 which seemed like a
ripoff at the time (not that it stopped me) but that was nothing
compared to the $250ish today.

--Steve

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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:26 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Zimbo wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)


I bought a Phoenix silk fly line several years ago with this same
mindset. Unfortunately, a mouse got into my fly fishing gear and
gnawed the silk line into several pieces. 1 out of 1 garage mice
prefer silk to plastic.

Is it just me or have silk lines gone way up in price in the last,
say, 5 years. Seems like I bought mine for $90 which seemed like a
ripoff at the time (not that it stopped me) but that was nothing
compared to the $250ish today.


Phoenix silk lines cost about the same as they always have,
it's the US dollar going down the toilet that makes them much
more expensive to import.

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Old October 10th, 2007, 06:53 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Zimbo wrote:

Is it just me or have silk lines gone way up in price in the last,
say, 5 years. Seems like I bought mine for $90 which seemed like a
ripoff at the time (not that it stopped me) but that was nothing
compared to the $250ish today.


You'd have to be a complete fool to pay that much for a flyline.

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Old October 11th, 2007, 12:06 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Julie
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Default Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

In article ,
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)


The SA sharkskin also outlasts conventional lines by 6x. And is only
$100. And casts farther.
 




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