Mystery Fly

Last November while fishing for big browns and steelhead near Rochester
the guy on the river who caught the most fish was using this fly that I
cannot identify or find. Hopefully someone here knows of it. It was
built on an 8x long hook and was basically just wrapped with real
smooth dubbing and then wrapped with hackle. If you looked at on one
end it was brown, from the other end it flashed tan. It sorta looked
like a super-long wooly bugger with no tail. He gave my buddy one of
his, but it got lost. Does anybody know what this thing is?


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That is called the floss fly


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Do you have a picture of it?


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On 16 Nov, 22:43, Hntm wrote:
Last November while fishing for big browns and steelhead near Rochester
the guy on the river who caught the most fish was using this fly that I
cannot identify or find. Hopefully someone here knows of it. It was
built on an 8x long hook and was basically just wrapped with real
smooth dubbing and then wrapped with hackle. If you looked at on one
end it was brown, from the other end it flashed tan. It sorta looked
like a super-long wooly bugger with no tail. He gave my buddy one of
his, but it got lost. Does anybody know what this thing is?

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Sounds like a woolly worm variation. These can be deadly on occasion.
here is a very old version;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...r/creeper.html

Woolly buggers with very short tails also often work better than the
long tailed variety.

TL
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On Nov 16, 2:43 pm, Hntm wrote:
......about an extra-long bugger-like fly

The "Roadkill Streamers" piece I wrote many years ago
starts off with the following, about the "wall of fame" at
Dan Bailey's fly shop in Livingston, MT:

Of the 364 four pound (or larger) trout painted on the walls of Dan
Bailey's Fly Shop in Livingston Montana:

7% were taken on small wet flies.
12% were taken with small dry flies.
15% were taken with large dry flies such as grasshoppers,
Wulffs and adult Salmon Fly imitations.
24% were taken with Woolly Worms, Bitch Creeks, Girdle Bugs,
and Montana Nymphs.
42% were taken with streamer flies.

Of those 400 or so painted outlines of large fish (at Bailey's) almost
all were large browns. The number of 4 pound or larger rainbows was
small, for some reason. One interesting (also missing) detail was
that of the "24% were taken with Woolly Worms, Bitch Creeks, Girdle
Bugs"
a disproportion number of those were taken with "Duck Lake Specials"

The Duck Lake Special (now a forgotten fly) was an extra-long
Woolly Worm, tied on an 8x long shank, with or without a Bugger
like tail. Also, not all of the Duck Lake Special fish were caught
in Duck Lake (on the Blackeet Reservation).

http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...Streamers.html

I use lots of extra-long flies. But I seldom tie them on long-shanked
hooks.
I'm convinced the longer the shank, the easier it is for the fish to
pop the hook.
It takes some ingenuity to tie a long fly with short shanked hook.
There are numberous ways (like the roakill, pig sticker and various
articulated flies, tied by guys like Dan Delekta and Kelly Gallup.

spittendrigh wrote:


Of those 400 or so painted outlines of large fish (at Bailey's) almost
all were large browns. The number of 4 pound or larger rainbows was
small, for some reason. One interesting (also missing) detail was
that of the "24% were taken with Woolly Worms, Bitch Creeks, Girdle
Bugs"
a disproportion number of those were taken with "Duck Lake Specials"

The Duck Lake Special (now a forgotten fly) was an extra-long
Woolly Worm, tied on an 8x long shank, with or without a Bugger
like tail. Also, not all of the Duck Lake Special fish were caught
in Duck Lake (on the Blackeet Reservation).

The Duck Lake Special certainly isn't a forgotten fly in Idaho.

The one time I fished the Duck Lake Reservation (Lake Billy Shaw) I
tried the Duck Lake Special, but didn't have much luck with it. I had my
best success with a Skip's Nymph drifted (by wind drag) through the
drowned sagebrush. That was deadly.

Billy Shaw is an interesting lake. It's a rather recently created
reservoir with lots and lots of dead sagebrush. The decomposing organic
manner evidently makes for a rich feeding environment. The downside is
that it also makes it hard to land fish.

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On Nov 21, 10:02 am, rw wrote:

The Duck Lake Special certainly isn't a forgotten fly in Idaho.

The one time I fished the Duck Lake Reservation (Lake Billy Shaw) I
tried the Duck Lake Special, but didn't have much luck with it. I had my
best success with a Skip's Nymph drifted (by wind drag) through the
drowned sagebrush. That was deadly.


Idaho seems to hang on to traditions longer. There are more
wooden driftboats in Idaho, per boat owner, than even Oregon,
where they came from. I haven't seen a Duck Lake Special in
a Montana Fly shop in years.

Sounds like a Crackleback. Check it out at '\"Crackleback - #259
FAOL\"' (http://tinyurl.com/3cfad3)


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spittendrigh wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:02 am, rw wrote:

The Duck Lake Special certainly isn't a forgotten fly in Idaho.

The one time I fished the Duck Lake Reservation (Lake Billy Shaw) I
tried the Duck Lake Special, but didn't have much luck with it. I had my
best success with a Skip's Nymph drifted (by wind drag) through the
drowned sagebrush. That was deadly.



Idaho seems to hang on to traditions longer. There are more
wooden driftboats in Idaho, per boat owner, than even Oregon,
where they came from. I haven't seen a Duck Lake Special in
a Montana Fly shop in years.

Duck Lake Reservation is just over the Idaho border in Nevada,
convenient to Boise and Twin Falls. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the
inventor of the Duck Lake Special is an Idahoan, although I can't recall
or Google-up his name. Those facts (if the second is actually a fact)
probably account for much of the continued popularity of the Duck Lake
Special in Idaho.

It looks like a nondescript, unexceptional, anodyne fly to me -- no
better or worse than many other similar flies. I doubt that I'll ever
fish it again (unless I'm desperate). It's disproportionate success
represented at Bailey's is probably due to a long reign as the "it" fly.

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rw wrote:
spittendrigh wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:02 am, rw wrote:

The Duck Lake Special certainly isn't a forgotten fly in Idaho.


Hello mates.

I am quite newbie to fly tying, so I poorly know only a couple of
classical patterns.
I googled on "Duck Lake Special" to find some tying pattern, with no luck.

Do anyone has a shot of this fly so that I could check what it looks like.

Thanks.