Oh well

Hmm.......... seems I am no closer to understanding what makes you
people tick than I ever was.

The fact that you support such extremely dishonourable conduct is
quite astonishing. I simply fail to comprehend how that can be.

I don´t suppose it is of any really earth shattering consequence
though.

Mike Connor

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/HomePage

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/ROFF

On Aug 7, 9:54*pm, wrote:

Hmm.......... seems I am no closer to understanding what makes you
people tick than I ever was.

The fact that you support such extremely dishonourable conduct is
quite astonishing. *I simply fail to comprehend how that can be.

Dishonorable conduct? You have a beef with certain posters so you
decide to innudate us with multiple posts that say the same thing,
most of it gibberish and you want to talk about dishonorable conduct.
Your behavior these past few days borders on some the most infantile
crap most of us have ever seen from a reputed adult. But at the end of
the day, we can no more control Ken than we can control you.

We operate in a free environment and those of us in America, at least,
value our freedoms, one of which is the freedom of speech. The Ken and
you got into offer remarks you made about Gays in Europe does not make
things dishonorable here. Your comments, however they were intended,
came across as homophobic and Ken never has been afraid to express his
opinion and you played right into it. Personally I think most of the
problems result from cultural differences that most of us have not
experienced nor we have any comprehension of it.

Much the same way you played into with Gehrke or any other numerous
other spats over the years. Hell, I remember you called me ":stupid"
for disagreeing with one of your fishing assertions once. Before you
call me a liar, remember there is a large archive of posts on google.

Ken plays you like a fiddle and you walk right into it. What I do or
don't do has nothing to do with it. You own your website and the
content, you don't own ROFF nor do you own ROFFT. And you know darn
well you are pushing if not exceeding the boundaries of the terms of
participation for most internet isps and websites over some perceived
slight.

As others have said, you take this stuff way too seriously. Your fly
fishing jones goes beyond what most of us here think as normal, but at
the same time the olympics will soon be upon us with people that did
nothing but practice their sports for years for this chance to
participate. When you';re as serious as you are about something, it
becomes hard to see the forest for the trees and to bring the level
you are imparting to the level of the person you are consulting. Your
fly line splicing is a perfect example. Most of us don't need to
playing with heads to fish the waters we fish over here. Maybe how and
where you fish it is important, and good for you that you can do it.
That I don't doesn't mean anything more than I don't make and use
shooting heads.

Regardless of what you think of Ken. I consider him a friend, I may
not agree with him on his opinions or how he presents his arguments,
all the time but last I checked agreeing with someone all the time was
not a requirement to be a friend. So I'll add my name to the list that
asks you to chill. Honor comes in many forms and doing dishonorable
things as revenge on something you think is dishonorable does not
justify it. You know it.

On 7-Aug-2008, Wayne Knight wrote:

Dishonorable conduct? You have a beef with certain posters so you
decide to innudate us with multiple posts that say the same thing,
most of it gibberish and you want to talk about dishonorable conduct.
Your behavior these past few days borders on some the most infantile
crap most of us have ever seen from a reputed adult. But at the end of
the day, we can no more control Ken than we can control you.

We operate in a free environment and those of us in America, at least,
value our freedoms, one of which is the freedom of speech. The Ken and
you got into offer remarks you made about Gays in Europe does not make
things dishonorable here. Your comments, however they were intended,
came across as homophobic and Ken never has been afraid to express his
opinion and you played right into it. Personally I think most of the
problems result from cultural differences that most of us have not
experienced nor we have any comprehension of it.

Much the same way you played into with Gehrke or any other numerous
other spats over the years. Hell, I remember you called me ":stupid"
for disagreeing with one of your fishing assertions once. Before you
call me a liar, remember there is a large archive of posts on google.

Ken plays you like a fiddle and you walk right into it. What I do or
don't do has nothing to do with it. You own your website and the
content, you don't own ROFF nor do you own ROFFT. And you know darn
well you are pushing if not exceeding the boundaries of the terms of
participation for most internet isps and websites over some perceived
slight.

As others have said, you take this stuff way too seriously. Your fly
fishing jones goes beyond what most of us here think as normal, but at
the same time the olympics will soon be upon us with people that did
nothing but practice their sports for years for this chance to
participate. When you';re as serious as you are about something, it
becomes hard to see the forest for the trees and to bring the level
you are imparting to the level of the person you are consulting. Your
fly line splicing is a perfect example. Most of us don't need to
playing with heads to fish the waters we fish over here. Maybe how and
where you fish it is important, and good for you that you can do it.
That I don't doesn't mean anything more than I don't make and use
shooting heads.



A rational appeal

Will it work?

I hope so
but I think not

There's a line from a song "one step over the line"
I think that we already are miles from that.

I hope that I am wrong.

Fred

On Aug 8, 7:52*am, "Fred" wrote:
On *7-Aug-2008, Wayne Knight wrote:



Dishonorable conduct? You have a beef with certain posters so you
decide to innudate us with multiple posts that say the same thing,
most of it gibberish and you want to talk about dishonorable conduct.
Your behavior these past few days borders on some the most infantile
crap most of us have ever seen from a reputed adult. But at the end of
the day, we can no more control Ken than we can control you.

We operate in a free environment and those of us in America, at least,
value our freedoms, one of which is the freedom of speech. The Ken and
you got into offer remarks you made about Gays in Europe does not make
things dishonorable here. Your comments, however they were intended,
came across as homophobic and Ken never has been afraid to express his
opinion and you played right into it. Personally I think most of the
problems result from cultural differences that most of us have not
experienced nor we have any comprehension of it.

Much the same way you played into with Gehrke or any other numerous
other spats over the years. Hell, I remember you called me ":stupid"
for disagreeing with one of your fishing assertions once. Before you
call me a liar, remember there is a large archive of posts on google.

Ken plays you like a fiddle and you walk right into it. What I do or
don't do has nothing to do with it. You own your website and the
content, you don't own ROFF nor do you own ROFFT. And you know darn
well you are pushing if not exceeding the boundaries of the terms of
participation for most internet isps and websites over some perceived
slight.

As others have said, you take this stuff way too seriously. Your fly
fishing jones goes beyond what most of us here think as normal, but at
the same time the olympics will soon be upon us with people that did
nothing but practice their sports for years for this chance to
participate. When you';re as serious as you are about something, it
becomes hard to see the forest for the trees and to bring the level
you are imparting to the level of the person you are consulting. Your
fly line splicing is a perfect example. Most of us don't need to
playing with heads to fish the waters we fish over here. Maybe how and
where you fish it is important, and good for you that you can do it.
That I don't doesn't mean anything more than I don't make and use
shooting heads.

A rational appeal

Will it work?

I hope so
but I think not

There's a line from a song "one step over the line"
I think that we already are miles from that.

I hope that I am wrong.

Fred

It had worked Fred, reagrdless of what you think or believe, my
apology was sincere, and I had simply left. But that mother****er
Forteneberry simply started again.

he is a lying dishonourable piece of stinking ****e, and I am going to
keep on telling everybody that for as long as I have the wherewithal
to do so.

As I told you before, iof you don´t like it, then **** off.

Mike Connor

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:33:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

It had worked Fred, reagrdless of what you think or believe, my
apology was sincere, and I had simply left. But that mother****er
Forteneberry simply started again.

Go back, Mike, and read the posts. Fortenberry said nothing about
your apology. Others did and you went off your rocker again. It was
only then that Fortenberry came aboard. Fortenberry did not start
this latest brouhaha.

Dave

On Aug 9, 4:41*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:33:43 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
It had worked Fred, reagrdless of what you think or believe, my
apology was sincere, and I had simply left. But that mother****er
Forteneberry simply started again.

Go back, Mike, and read the posts. *Fortenberry said nothing about
your apology. *Others did and you went off your rocker again. *It was
only then that Fortenberry came aboard. *Fortenberry did not start
this latest brouhaha.

Dave

I thought you had noticed by now that I had ceased replying to your
rubbish?

Not because I think you are evil or a piece of disgusting lying ****e
like your mate Fortenberry, but because I think you are just too
****ing stupid to waste any time on.

Everything you post merely serves to confirm my analysis.

**** off LaCourse, I don´t give a **** what you think or write.

Mike Connor

On Aug 8, 5:07*am, Wayne Knight wrote:
On Aug 7, 9:54*pm, wrote:

Hmm.......... seems I am no closer to understanding what makes you
people tick than I ever was.

The fact that you support such extremely dishonourable conduct is
quite astonishing. *I simply fail to comprehend how that can be.

Dishonorable conduct? You have a beef with certain posters so you
decide to innudate us with multiple posts that say the same thing,
most of it gibberish and you want to talk about dishonorable conduct.
Your behavior these past few days borders on some the most infantile
crap most of us have ever seen from a reputed adult. But at the end of
the day, we can no more control Ken than we can control you.

We operate in a free environment and those of us in America, at least,
value our freedoms, one of which is the freedom of speech. The Ken and
you got into offer remarks you made about Gays in Europe does not make
things dishonorable here. Your comments, however they were intended,
came across as homophobic and Ken never has been afraid to express his
opinion and you played right into it. Personally I think most of the
problems result from cultural differences that most of us have not
experienced nor we have any comprehension of it.

Much the same way you played into with Gehrke or any other numerous
other spats over the years. Hell, I remember you called me ":stupid"
for disagreeing with one of your fishing assertions once. Before you
call me a liar, remember there is a large archive of posts on google.

Ken plays you like a fiddle and you walk right into it. What I do or
don't do has nothing to do with it. You own your website and the
content, you don't own ROFF nor do you own ROFFT. And you know darn
well you are pushing if not exceeding the boundaries of the terms of
participation for most internet isps and websites over some perceived
slight.

As others have said, you take this stuff way too seriously. Your fly
fishing jones goes beyond what most of us here think as normal, but at
the same time the olympics will soon be upon us with people that did
nothing but practice their sports for years for this chance to
participate. When you';re as serious as you are about something, it
becomes hard to see the forest for the trees and to bring the level
you are imparting to the level of the person you are consulting. Your
fly line splicing is a perfect example. Most of us don't need to
playing with heads to fish the waters we fish over here. Maybe how and
where you fish it is important, and good for you that you can do it.
That I don't doesn't mean anything more than I don't make and use
shooting heads.

Regardless of what you think of Ken. I consider him a friend, I may
not agree with him on his opinions or how he presents his arguments,
all the time but last I checked agreeing with someone all the time was
not a requirement to be a friend. So I'll add my name to the list that
asks you to chill. Honor comes in many forms and doing dishonorable
things as revenge on something you think is dishonorable does not
justify it. You know it.

A very rational and sensible post, which I read several times and
digested thoroughly. It is truly a pity that you have no influence on
your sick ****bag mother****er of a friend.

Why don´t you write him a similar epistle on the virtues of honour and
common sense?

If i thought that what I did was dishonourable, I simply wouldn´t do
it.

What you think about what I should think or do, while interesting, is
completely irrelevant.

Mike Connor

On Aug 8, 5:07*am, Wayne Knight wrote:
On Aug 7, 9:54*pm, wrote:

Hmm.......... seems I am no closer to understanding what makes you
people tick than I ever was.

The fact that you support such extremely dishonourable conduct is
quite astonishing. *I simply fail to comprehend how that can be.

Dishonorable conduct? You have a beef with certain posters so you
decide to innudate us with multiple posts that say the same thing,
most of it gibberish and you want to talk about dishonorable conduct.
Your behavior these past few days borders on some the most infantile
crap most of us have ever seen from a reputed adult. But at the end of
the day, we can no more control Ken than we can control you.

We operate in a free environment and those of us in America, at least,
value our freedoms, one of which is the freedom of speech. The Ken and
you got into offer remarks you made about Gays in Europe does not make
things dishonorable here. Your comments, however they were intended,
came across as homophobic and Ken never has been afraid to express his
opinion and you played right into it. Personally I think most of the
problems result from cultural differences that most of us have not
experienced nor we have any comprehension of it.

Much the same way you played into with Gehrke or any other numerous
other spats over the years. Hell, I remember you called me ":stupid"
for disagreeing with one of your fishing assertions once. Before you
call me a liar, remember there is a large archive of posts on google.

Ken plays you like a fiddle and you walk right into it. What I do or
don't do has nothing to do with it. You own your website and the
content, you don't own ROFF nor do you own ROFFT. And you know darn
well you are pushing if not exceeding the boundaries of the terms of
participation for most internet isps and websites over some perceived
slight.

As others have said, you take this stuff way too seriously. Your fly
fishing jones goes beyond what most of us here think as normal, but at
the same time the olympics will soon be upon us with people that did
nothing but practice their sports for years for this chance to
participate. When you';re as serious as you are about something, it
becomes hard to see the forest for the trees and to bring the level
you are imparting to the level of the person you are consulting. Your
fly line splicing is a perfect example. Most of us don't need to
playing with heads to fish the waters we fish over here. Maybe how and
where you fish it is important, and good for you that you can do it.
That I don't doesn't mean anything more than I don't make and use
shooting heads.

Regardless of what you think of Ken. I consider him a friend, I may
not agree with him on his opinions or how he presents his arguments,
all the time but last I checked agreeing with someone all the time was
not a requirement to be a friend. So I'll add my name to the list that
asks you to chill. Honor comes in many forms and doing dishonorable
things as revenge on something you think is dishonorable does not
justify it. You know it.

Oh, and as for "playing me like a fiddle", firstly, if you are aware
that he is simply provoking defaming and lying about others simply for
fun or perverse pleasure, why don´t you do something about it?

Evil only triumphs because good men do nothing.

Do you consider yourself a good man?

How do you justify this creature´s behaviour to yourself?

Trying to justify ot to me, or somehow blaming me for the fact that
your friend is a total mother****er is more than somewhat riduculous.

Up to now I have respected what you wrote abaout a lot of things in a
quiet sensible manner.

However, if you support a ****ing total ****bag like Fortenberry, you
are in actual fact no better than he is, and forfeit all respect as a
result.

Mike Connor

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

However, if you support a ****ing total ****bag like Fortenberry, you
are in actual fact no better than he is, and forfeit all respect as a
result.

Well, I can't speak for Wayne, but if it is a choice between you and
Fortenberry, that decision is quite easy.

Dave

wrote:
snip
Oh, and as for "playing me like a fiddle", firstly, if you are aware
that he is simply provoking defaming and lying about others simply for
fun or perverse pleasure, why don´t you do something about it?

What do you suggest? Seriously. If it's ranting on and on like you're doing,
no thanks. It's just a waste of time and energies, and makes the situation
worse. If it's gathering up the clubs, pitchforks, and torches and marching
to Chambana, we'd probably just end up in a long line anyway. ;-)

Another serious question: Why can't you just ignore him? No one is making
you read these posts.
--
TL,
Tim
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