Congradulations Mr. President!

Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op

"Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...
Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op


If there was sound judgment, we would have had neither of these doofus to
choose from.

Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op


I am glad to see that Obama won. I think his election will be good not
only for the US, but the rest of the world, including Canada/

Tim Lysyk

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:03:46 -0500, "Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op

Indeed, and it's so much more than just electing Obama as President. Between
this election and the mid-terms of 2006, the Republican Party has suffered
tremendous losses at all levels of government - basically, it has had its head
removed and handed back to it. Such is the cost of their having run the
country into a financial, moral and ethical ditch while they were in control.
Now they have two choices: sit on the sidelines and snipe, while hoping things
get worse, or change their stripes, moderate their dogma, and join in the
effort to extricate the country from the abyss that the neocons sank it in.

But, for me at least, the very best part of this election: it was a wholesale
repudiation of those who would divide this country through hate.

The list of losers is long and utterly undistinguished, but to mention just a
few, kicked to the curb were the likes of Karl Rove, Phyllis Schlafly, William
Bennett, Laura Schlessinger, Newt Gingrich, Rudi Guiliani, James Dobson, Ralph
Reed, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham,
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Rupert Murdoch and the entire Fox
News organization...and on and on. The whole collection of bad actors got
their hineys roasted, and cannot escape the reality that if they ever actually
held sway over any significant part of the American electorate, they've been
diminished to near irrelevance. And it's about time.


Meanwhile, for the sake of good order, props to John McCain, for a magnificent
speech to close out his campaign - and the wisdom to keep Sarah Palin quiet.
The irony is, of course, that this signified the return of the man that most
people once knew and had some respect - the John McCain of 1999 - instead of
the 2008 candidate that not only allowed his campaign to get rolled into the
wingnut/neocon mud hole, but contributed with his cynical selection of Sarah
Palin ("Country First" my white shiney ass!)

One can only wonder, had McCain taken the high road through this presidential
campaign, if the outcome could have been different. Perhaps not - clearly, the
electorate was disgusted with the Republican Party and may not have shown any
quarter. In any case, there is reason to be hopeful that McCain will provide a
positive contribution to the raising of the ship of state, before he rides off
into retirement.

And so now we wait and watch as the next Administration is formed - and hope
that the current, disgraced Administration goes away quietly...

/daytripper (Tonite is a better nite, and tomorrow will be a better day)

daytripper wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:03:46 -0500, "Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op

Indeed, and it's so much more than just electing Obama as President. Between
this election and the mid-terms of 2006, the Republican Party has suffered
tremendous losses at all levels of government - basically, it has had its head
removed and handed back to it. Such is the cost of their having run the
country into a financial, moral and ethical ditch while they were in control.
Now they have two choices: sit on the sidelines and snipe, while hoping things
get worse, or change their stripes, moderate their dogma, and join in the
effort to extricate the country from the abyss that the neocons sank it in.

But, for me at least, the very best part of this election: it was a wholesale
repudiation of those who would divide this country through hate.

The list of losers is long and utterly undistinguished, but to mention just a
few, kicked to the curb were the likes of Karl Rove, Phyllis Schlafly, William
Bennett, Laura Schlessinger, Newt Gingrich, Rudi Guiliani, James Dobson, Ralph
Reed, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham,
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Rupert Murdoch and the entire Fox
News organization...and on and on. The whole collection of bad actors got
their hineys roasted, and cannot escape the reality that if they ever actually
held sway over any significant part of the American electorate, they've been
diminished to near irrelevance. And it's about time.


Meanwhile, for the sake of good order, props to John McCain, for a magnificent
speech to close out his campaign - and the wisdom to keep Sarah Palin quiet.
The irony is, of course, that this signified the return of the man that most
people once knew and had some respect - the John McCain of 1999 - instead of
the 2008 candidate that not only allowed his campaign to get rolled into the
wingnut/neocon mud hole, but contributed with his cynical selection of Sarah
Palin ("Country First" my white shiney ass!)

One can only wonder, had McCain taken the high road through this presidential
campaign, if the outcome could have been different. Perhaps not - clearly, the
electorate was disgusted with the Republican Party and may not have shown any
quarter. In any case, there is reason to be hopeful that McCain will provide a
positive contribution to the raising of the ship of state, before he rides off
into retirement.

And so now we wait and watch as the next Administration is formed - and hope
that the current, disgraced Administration goes away quietly...

/daytripper (Tonite is a better nite, and tomorrow will be a better day)

You're so fos and hate. The outcome of this election was decided by the
press a year ago. My daughter, the grad student in journalism, was
actually embarrassed by the unequal treatment of the two candidates by
the press.

One needs to consider why, with the negative approval for the president,
the election was as close as it was.

We can only hope that Obama and his three vice-presidents don't actually
start implementing Obama's promises. Or maybe we should just to prove
how clueless they really are.

Peaceful Bill wrote:

You're so fos and hate. The outcome of this election was decided by the
press a year ago. ...

LOL !! What a tool.

This election was decided when Lehman Bros. was allowed to go
belly up. From that point on it was just one unstoppable domino
after another.

The press didn't have a damn thing to with the outcome. There
was no way to portray an erratic and incompetent campaign as
anything other than erratic and incompetent. This 2008 presidential
campaign was the biggest organization McCain had ever tried to
run and he was just plain bad at it.

He gave a nice concession speech though.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Peaceful Bill wrote:

You're so fos and hate. The outcome of this election was decided by
the press a year ago. ...

LOL !! What a tool.

This election was decided when Lehman Bros. was allowed to go
belly up. From that point on it was just one unstoppable domino
after another.

The press didn't have a damn thing to with the outcome. There
was no way to portray an erratic and incompetent campaign as
anything other than erratic and incompetent. This 2008 presidential
campaign was the biggest organization McCain had ever tried to
run and he was just plain bad at it.

He gave a nice concession speech though.


How naive of you to think so.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:56:54 -0600, Peaceful Bill
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:03:46 -0500, "Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Thank goodness sound judgement won out this time!

Op

Indeed, and it's so much more than just electing Obama as President. Between
this election and the mid-terms of 2006, the Republican Party has suffered
tremendous losses at all levels of government - basically, it has had its head
removed and handed back to it. Such is the cost of their having run the
country into a financial, moral and ethical ditch while they were in control.
Now they have two choices: sit on the sidelines and snipe, while hoping things
get worse, or change their stripes, moderate their dogma, and join in the
effort to extricate the country from the abyss that the neocons sank it in.

But, for me at least, the very best part of this election: it was a wholesale
repudiation of those who would divide this country through hate.

The list of losers is long and utterly undistinguished, but to mention just a
few, kicked to the curb were the likes of Karl Rove, Phyllis Schlafly, William
Bennett, Laura Schlessinger, Newt Gingrich, Rudi Guiliani, James Dobson, Ralph
Reed, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham,
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Rupert Murdoch and the entire Fox
News organization...and on and on. The whole collection of bad actors got
their hineys roasted, and cannot escape the reality that if they ever actually
held sway over any significant part of the American electorate, they've been
diminished to near irrelevance. And it's about time.


Meanwhile, for the sake of good order, props to John McCain, for a magnificent
speech to close out his campaign - and the wisdom to keep Sarah Palin quiet.
The irony is, of course, that this signified the return of the man that most
people once knew and had some respect - the John McCain of 1999 - instead of
the 2008 candidate that not only allowed his campaign to get rolled into the
wingnut/neocon mud hole, but contributed with his cynical selection of Sarah
Palin ("Country First" my white shiney ass!)

One can only wonder, had McCain taken the high road through this presidential
campaign, if the outcome could have been different. Perhaps not - clearly, the
electorate was disgusted with the Republican Party and may not have shown any
quarter. In any case, there is reason to be hopeful that McCain will provide a
positive contribution to the raising of the ship of state, before he rides off
into retirement.

And so now we wait and watch as the next Administration is formed - and hope
that the current, disgraced Administration goes away quietly...

/daytripper (Tonite is a better nite, and tomorrow will be a better day)

You're so fos and hate. The outcome of this election was decided by the
press a year ago. My daughter, the grad student in journalism, was
actually embarrassed by the unequal treatment of the two candidates by
the press.

One needs to consider why, with the negative approval for the president,
the election was as close as it was.

We can only hope that Obama and his three vice-presidents don't actually
start implementing Obama's promises. Or maybe we should just to prove
how clueless they really are.

Ah - so rather than actually debate a single point, you go with the
intellectually lazy response, play the "hate card" - and make my point
for me. Nice work!

But...I am a Pisces. Excellent lover, lousy hater.

Heck, I don't "hate" Bush, Cheney, Rove - or even Sean Hannity (sure,
I've love to see Hannity get run over by a speeding bus, but I don't
"hate" him ;-)

Bottom line: *You* are the reason why the Republican Party has taken
it in the shorts for the last two election cycles. And unless you -
and your party - wake the **** up, you're both heading to the dustbin
of political history...

/daytripper (hth - or not)

On Nov 5, 12:12 am, daytripper wrote:

[little snip]

One can only wonder, had McCain taken the high road through this presidential
campaign, if the outcome could have been different. Perhaps not - clearly, the
electorate was disgusted with the Republican Party and may not have shown any
quarter.

Ironically, I think his whole approach to the campaign (including
choosing Palin) was an effort on his (or his handlers') part to try to
win back the rabid right element who never really supported him in the
first place. In pandering to them, he just alienated moderates even
more.

In any case, there is reason to be hopeful that McCain will provide a
positive contribution to the raising of the ship of state, before he rides off
into retirement.

And hopefully Palin goes back to doing whatever it is she was doing
before, never to be heard from again on the national scene.

And so now we wait and watch as the next Administration is formed - and hope
that the current, disgraced Administration goes away quietly...

My only concern is that the current administration has no reason to
care about what they leave behind for the new administration.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian wrote:


My only concern is that the current administration has no reason to
care about what they leave behind for the new administration.



Are you suggesting that they might have the same kind of transition as
Clinton did with with the handover to Bush?