OT Spirit Rolls

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.

Willi

Willi wrote:

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.

Sounds more like good news/bad news to me.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...s/peters2.html

--
Ken Fortenberry

A local boy that artist is.

john

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Willi wrote:

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.

Sounds more like good news/bad news to me.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...s/peters2.html

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.


Sounds more like good news/bad news to me.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...s/peters2.html


Yeah, but it's not the cost of the space program that's going to
bankrupt us. Its cost is a drop in the bucket as compared to the war.

Aside from being in favor of the space program for a variety of reasons,
I think it is important for our Country to have projects of a positive
nature.

Willi

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.


Sounds more like good news/bad news to me.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...s/peters2.html


Yeah, but it's not the cost of the space program that's going to
bankrupt us. Its cost is a drop in the bucket as compared to the war.

Aside from being in favor of the space program for a variety of reasons,
I think it is important for our Country to have projects of a positive
nature.

Compared to defense, SS, Medicare/aid, the extra money for NASA is
truly a drop in the bucket.

Major Category Actual
yr2003
-----------------------------------------------------------
Defense--Military 94 17.5%
Social Security Benefits 115 21.5%
Medicare 71 13.2%
Medicaid 39 7.2%
Other Programs and Activities 174 32.5%
Subtotal 493

Net Interest on the Public Debt 43 8.0%

Total 536

I knew defense was high, but never realized how much the
social service programs were....and they are going to get
how much worse once the boomers start to retire??? WOW!
- Ken

Yeah, like Proxmire said: A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon
you're talking real money. (paraphrased).

Not that I am opposed to the space program. I feel certain that its benefits
far outweigh its costs. Just look at graphite flyrods and golf shafts,
microprocessors, and mylar!

Jim Ray

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.


Sounds more like good news/bad news to me.


http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...s/peters2.html


Yeah, but it's not the cost of the space program that's going to
bankrupt us. Its cost is a drop in the bucket as compared to the war.

Aside from being in favor of the space program for a variety of reasons,
I think it is important for our Country to have projects of a positive
nature.

Compared to defense, SS, Medicare/aid, the extra money for NASA is
truly a drop in the bucket.

Major Category Actual
yr2003
-----------------------------------------------------------
Defense--Military 94 17.5%
Social Security Benefits 115 21.5%
Medicare 71 13.2%
Medicaid 39 7.2%
Other Programs and Activities 174 32.5%
Subtotal 493

Net Interest on the Public Debt 43 8.0%

Total 536

I knew defense was high, but never realized how much the
social service programs were....and they are going to get
how much worse once the boomers start to retire??? WOW!
- Ken

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Yeah, like Proxmire said: A billion here, a billion there, pretty
soon
you're talking real money. (paraphrased).

Dirksen......for what it's worth.

Wolfgang

Willi wrote:

Yeah, but it's not the cost of the space program that's going to
bankrupt us. Its cost is a drop in the bucket as compared to the war.

Aside from being in favor of the space program for a variety of reasons,
I think it is important for our Country to have projects of a positive
nature.

I like the idea of exploration and pushing forward to new frontiers
and I do think the government has an important role to play in funding
basic research, but I don't think we need to send actual human beings
to the moon again or Mars after that. For the time being, smart robots
like the one on Mars now will do just fine.

I too think it's important for the government to have projects of a
positive nature, but I prefer ones like Universal Health Care and
ensuring a decent education for all our citizens to Lost in Space.

WHY SOME LOOK UP TO PLANETS AND HEROES

Brooding and seated at the summit
Of a well-engineered explosion
He prepared his thoughts for fireflies and warnings

Only a tourist only a shy American
Flung into the sky by an ingenious weapon
Prepared for every legend

His space once visited by apes and Russians
No longer perfectly pure
Still proferred virginal joys and free rides
In his barrel of fun
A starspangled somersault
A sky-high Mother's Day

Four times that day his sun would set
Upon the casual rider
Streaking past the stars
At seventeen thousand miles per hour

Our winning Rover delighted
To remain hung up in cool hours and long trips
Smiling and riding in eternal transports

Even where a dog died in a globe
And still comes round enclosed
In a heaven of Russian wires

Uncle stayed alive
Gone in a globe of light
Ripping around the pretty world of girls and sights

"It will be fun" he thinks
"If by my cunning flight
The ignorant and Africans become convinced"

Convinced of what ? Nobody knows
And Major is far out
Four days ahead of his own news

Until at last the shy American smiles
Colliding once again with air fire and lenses
To stand on a noisy earth
And engineer consent

Consent to what ? Nobody knows
What engine next will dig a moon
What costly Uncles stand on Mars

What next device will fill the air with burning dollars
Or else lay out the low down number of some Day
What day ? May we consent ?
Consent to what ? Nobody knows.
Yet the computers are convinced
Fed full of numbers by the True Believers.

-Thomas Merton-
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Ken Fortenberry

Its questionable if there's any benefit in sending a human in the first
place. You can build probes for a
fraction of the cost simply because you dont have to worry about the extra
gear needed to keep someone alive. And except for the 'we put a man on mars'
we are unlikely to learn anything that probes wouldnt uncover.

Oh wow. Like farout out!

Live long and prosper.!

john...

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Some good news

Spirit starts its journey on Mars and Bush proposes an expanded space
program.

Willi