Casting practice - fields & water ... beginner

I'm new to fly fishing. First thing, of many, I need to practice is casting. I was thinking of practising in a nearby field with my new dry fly line (without leader). Is this likely to damage my line?

I'd also like to practice on water, again without leader and fly - can I do this without a rod license or venue license... assuming of course I also don't have any leaders or flies about my person?!

Thanks for any help

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:07:57 AM UTC+8, M wrote:
I'm new to fly fishing. First thing, of many, I need to practice is casting. I was thinking of practising in a nearby field with my new dry fly line (without leader). Is this likely to damage my line?

I'd also like to practice on water, again without leader and fly - can I do this without a rod license or venue license... assuming of course I also don't have any leaders or flies about my person?!

Thanks for any help

Practicing on the grass is common, but it's a useless exercise without the leader, as the whole idea is to get good at controlling the leader behavior, not to just get the fly line out there.

Tie on a leader, and tie a little piece of yarn to the tip of it. Not so large that it has its own aerodynamics and can 'catch the wind'....its SOLE purpose is to help you see the tip of the leader as you cast. Also, do not use a strip of cloth or anything that is flat, as it will make a 'wing' and twist your leader around like a rope and knot it up like you won't believe. Use yarn: about 1.5 inches, and tie off close to one end of it.

Whatever leader you use will be useless for fishing afterwards, and you will need to wipe down the fly line thoroughly with warm water and a tiny bit of dishwashing liquid. A google search will give you lots of insights on how to wash a line...you need to get the pollen and sap from the grass off the line. so wash it carefully. A small amount of soap and water won't hurt it, but stretching it out as you wipe it will...be gentle but firm, like you're scrubbing some heavy dirt off of a baby's skin.

As far as practicing on water: as long as you don't have a hook on, I'm pretty sure you don't need a license to fish. But I'd go further and not even carry any flies with you....so no one thinks you just broke off. Better to have a little piece of plastic tied on instead, but also...check your local laws. Don't take my word for it.

Oh, and casting over water without a leader on is also useless.

--riverman

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:54:42 AM UTC+1, riverman wrote:
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:07:57 AM UTC+8, M wrote:
I'm new to fly fishing. First thing, of many, I need to practice is casting. I was thinking of practising in a nearby field with my new dry fly line (without leader). Is this likely to damage my line?

I'd also like to practice on water, again without leader and fly - can I do this without a rod license or venue license... assuming of course I also don't have any leaders or flies about my person?!

Thanks for any help

Practicing on the grass is common, but it's a useless exercise without the leader, as the whole idea is to get good at controlling the leader behavior, not to just get the fly line out there.

Tie on a leader, and tie a little piece of yarn to the tip of it. Not so large that it has its own aerodynamics and can 'catch the wind'....its SOLE purpose is to help you see the tip of the leader as you cast. Also, do not use a strip of cloth or anything that is flat, as it will make a 'wing' and twist your leader around like a rope and knot it up like you won't believe. Use yarn: about 1.5 inches, and tie off close to one end of it.

Whatever leader you use will be useless for fishing afterwards, and you will need to wipe down the fly line thoroughly with warm water and a tiny bit of dishwashing liquid. A google search will give you lots of insights on how to wash a line...you need to get the pollen and sap from the grass off the line. so wash it carefully. A small amount of soap and water won't hurt it, but stretching it out as you wipe it will...be gentle but firm, like you're scrubbing some heavy dirt off of a baby's skin.

As far as practicing on water: as long as you don't have a hook on, I'm pretty sure you don't need a license to fish. But I'd go further and not even carry any flies with you....so no one thinks you just broke off. Better to have a little piece of plastic tied on instead, but also...check your local laws. Don't take my word for it.

Oh, and casting over water without a leader on is also useless.

--riverman

Many thanks,
Mark

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:54:34 PM UTC+8, M wrote:
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:54:42 AM UTC+1, riverman wrote:
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:07:57 AM UTC+8, M wrote:
I'm new to fly fishing. First thing, of many, I need to practice is casting. I was thinking of practising in a nearby field with my new dry fly line (without leader). Is this likely to damage my line?

I'd also like to practice on water, again without leader and fly - can I do this without a rod license or venue license... assuming of course I also don't have any leaders or flies about my person?!

Thanks for any help

Practicing on the grass is common, but it's a useless exercise without the leader, as the whole idea is to get good at controlling the leader behavior, not to just get the fly line out there.

Tie on a leader, and tie a little piece of yarn to the tip of it. Not so large that it has its own aerodynamics and can 'catch the wind'....its SOLE purpose is to help you see the tip of the leader as you cast. Also, do not use a strip of cloth or anything that is flat, as it will make a 'wing' and twist your leader around like a rope and knot it up like you won't believe. Use yarn: about 1.5 inches, and tie off close to one end of it.

Whatever leader you use will be useless for fishing afterwards, and you will need to wipe down the fly line thoroughly with warm water and a tiny bit of dishwashing liquid. A google search will give you lots of insights on how to wash a line...you need to get the pollen and sap from the grass off the line. so wash it carefully. A small amount of soap and water won't hurt it, but stretching it out as you wipe it will...be gentle but firm, like you're scrubbing some heavy dirt off of a baby's skin.

As far as practicing on water: as long as you don't have a hook on, I'm pretty sure you don't need a license to fish. But I'd go further and not even carry any flies with you....so no one thinks you just broke off. Better to have a little piece of plastic tied on instead, but also...check your local laws. Don't take my word for it.

Oh, and casting over water without a leader on is also useless.

--riverman

Many thanks,
Mark

Have fun. By the way, you'll find most of us have migrated to Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/recoutdoorsfishingfly/

riverman wrote:

Have fun. By the way, you'll find most of us have migrated to Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/recoutdoorsfishingfly/

Oh great, now that you've posted the secret code there's no telling
what kind of riffraff will show up over there. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 05/17/2012 09:26 AM, Ken Fortenberry wrote:
riverman wrote:

Have fun. By the way, you'll find most of us have migrated to Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/recoutdoorsfishingfly/

Oh great, now that you've posted the secret code there's no telling
what kind of riffraff will show up over there. ;-)

One problem with USENET is that you can't thumbsup a post.

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:26:34 PM UTC+8, KenF wrote:
riverman wrote:

Have fun. By the way, you'll find most of us have migrated to Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/recoutdoorsfishingfly/

Oh great, now that you've posted the secret code there's no telling
what kind of riffraff will show up over there. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Probably a lot just like the current riffraff.

On May 17, 3:54*am, riverman wrote:
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:07:57 AM UTC+8, M wrote:
I'm new to fly fishing. First thing, of many, I need to practice is casting. I was thinking of practising in a nearby field with my new dry fly line (without leader). Is this likely to damage my line?

I'd also like to practice on water, again without leader and fly - can I do this without a rod license or venue license... assuming of course I also don't have any leaders or flies about my person?!

Thanks for any help

Practicing on the grass is common, but it's a useless exercise without the leader, as the whole idea is to get good at controlling the leader behavior, not to just get the fly line out there.

Tie on a leader, and tie a little piece of yarn to the tip of it. Not so large that it has its own aerodynamics and can 'catch the wind'....its SOLE purpose is to help you see the tip of the leader as you cast. Also, do not use a strip of cloth or anything that is flat, as it will make a 'wing' and twist your leader around like a rope and knot it up like you won't believe. Use yarn: about 1.5 inches, and tie off close to one end of it.

Whatever leader you use will be useless for fishing afterwards, and you will need to wipe down the fly line thoroughly with warm water and a tiny bit of dishwashing liquid. A google search will give you lots of insights on how to wash a line...you need to get the pollen and sap from the grass off the line. so wash it carefully. A small amount of soap and water won't hurt it, but stretching it out as you wipe it will...be gentle but firm, like you're scrubbing some heavy dirt off of a baby's skin.

As far as practicing on water: as long as you don't have a hook on, I'm pretty sure you don't need a license to fish. But I'd go further and not even carry any flies with you....so no one thinks you just broke off. Better to have a little piece of plastic tied on instead, but also...check your local laws. Don't take my word for it.

Oh, and casting over water without a leader on is also useless.

--riverman

One thing you can use (and it really works) is a grass leader.
http://fishfliesandwater.com/gear-ri...-grass-leader/
I build them for friends when we practice on the grass before our club
meetings.
Frank Reid