Drifting security

I'm sitting around thinking about how to use my kickboat to drift in areas
without shuttle service.

My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations? Clearly
there is some risk, but if you have experience leaving equipment unattended
in fairly remote, but still traveled enough that the equipment will be
noticed, areas of Idaho and Montana, I'd like to hear your opinion of the
risk factor.

Being a travel alone fly fisher, on a budget, my options are sometimes
limited by lack of shuttle and I'm trying to figure ways around that problem
....

Larry L wrote:

My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations?

Not around here.

I think you're more likely to get ripped off in the Motel 6 parking lot
than at a "typical" flyfishing destination, whatever that is.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:00:57 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I'm sitting around thinking about how to use my kickboat to drift in areas
without shuttle service.

My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations? Clearly
there is some risk, but if you have experience leaving equipment unattended
in fairly remote, but still traveled enough that the equipment will be
noticed, areas of Idaho and Montana, I'd like to hear your opinion of the
risk factor.

Being a travel alone fly fisher, on a budget, my options are sometimes
limited by lack of shuttle and I'm trying to figure ways around that problem
...



I've done it before witha bike and a canoe. I made sure to stash them
back in the brush so as to avoid tempting any lowlifes.


g.c.

Larry L wrote:

I'm sitting around thinking about how to use my kickboat to drift in areas
without shuttle service.

My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations?

In Oregon, the risk would vary greatly from place to place, just as the
risk of having your parked rig broken into does. I think in general the
risk of theft is a lot higher than risk of vandalism, but that too no
doubt varies.

I'd ask at the local fly shop or on a local FFing board about the
specific area you're thinking of fishing. George's advice is good:
try to hide the bike and kickboat as well as possible from view (both
from the river and the road). Might want to think about picking up a
old second-hand bike for this purpose.

JR

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:30:27 +0100, JR wrote:

Larry L wrote:


My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations?

In Oregon, the risk would vary greatly from place to place, just as the
risk of having your parked rig broken into does. I think in general the
risk of theft is a lot higher than risk of vandalism, but that too no
doubt varies.

I'd ask at the local fly shop or on a local FFing board about the
specific area you're thinking of fishing. George's advice is good:
try to hide the bike and kickboat as well as possible from view (both
from the river and the road). Might want to think about picking up a
old second-hand bike for this purpose.

In MN and western WI, I'd recommend the same. I don't worry much, but
I've taken the shuttle bus, come back and found little kids rocking my
canoe back and forth on the gravel. Never had anything stolen, even
at a couple of tacky spots where people come down to siphon gas out of
parked cars and steal outboards. Never even had my gas siphoned
there, either. But once I heard of it, I started parking so the gas
cap was in the midst of nasty scratchy bushes (I don't mind paint
scratches. You'd understand if you'd seen my vehicles.).

I have occasionally walked my canoe or kayak up stream a bit and put
it out of sight of the road and the day fishermen.

Look around the place you plan to leave things. If there's broken
glass (particularly beer and booze bottles) and half burned stuff and
it gives you a feeling you wouldn't want to be there after dark,
either find a better place or hide your stuff where no one's likely to
take a potty break. And be sure to be back before whatever 'party
time' is for the local teens.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

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Larry L wrote in message:

I'm sitting around thinking...

Cabin fever's almost over Larry.
.....................

LarryL again:

about how to use my kickboat to drift in areas
without shuttle service.

My main question .... would a locked up bicycle or kickboat be subject to
huge risk of theft or vandalism in most fishing destinations?

Being a travel alone fly fisher, on a budget..."
...........

Ante up

*burp*


the extra twenty bucks Larry for the piece of mind that you won't have to
worry about a ripped off bicycle in the bushes when you come back to the
fishing access at 10:00pm and it's pitch dark after you've been into wild
fish during a heavy March Brown hatch on the Upper Delaware River

*burp* [must be
something I ate]

in May.

Good

*b e l c h*
fishing to you.
V. Pesca.

"Lo Dolce Pesca" wrote


the extra twenty bucks Larry for the piece of mind that you won't have to
worry about a ripped off bicycle in the bushes when you come back to the
fishing access at 10:00pm and it's pitch dark after you've been into wild
fish during a heavy March Brown hatch on the Upper Delaware River


Actually its not places where commercial shuttle is available that I'm
thinking about. The place I was daydreaming about is many ( 80 ?) miles
from the nearest flyshop.

My budget isn't "that" tight ( although I fish daily for long periods, and
$600/ month sounds a lot worse than $20/ day :-) and I routinely pay for
shuttle on the Missouri, and other places I fish.

....actually I think what I do about fishing money is kinda interesting
....so I'll bore you with it ... hope it doesn't increase your indigestion

..... I'm semi-retired, which means I just work a little and put that money
in a fishing account. My current situation is such that I could spend far
more than what's in the fishing account without stressing my real budget,
but I actually enjoy keeping a separate "fishing budget" and trying to keep
the fishing cheap ...none of my hunting or fishing now comes out of the real
budget.

There is a way to approach this that makes "buying power" have less control,
not more, over one's life. Being truly poor would be hard to take, for
sure. But a "He who dies with the most toys, wins." ideology ( I followed
it from years, and often worked 70hour weeks to get stuff I had no time to
use ) is a type of spiritual prison, where your "things" can easily take on
more value than "yourself." My observations, mainly of myself, indicate
that fly fishing feeds the "I need cool stuff" ideology more than many other
activities, and "stuff collection and display" can actually reduce the
amount of pleasure one gets from the other, less tangible, rewards of the
sport.

I've found that making sure I keep the buying in check increases my
pleasure from the actual time on the water by increasing the importance of
ME and of NATURE and, very importantly, of TIME, and decreasing the
importance of "my cool gear"

Hum, I thought I'd be able to explain this better than that, but, I'm not
much of a writer, and I've never tried to express this before, although I've
strongly felt the difference between the current "budget fisher" and the
Larry of old that very likely bought a new Sage for a 2 day trip, just to be
sure he had the "best" .... I like the cheap Larry a lot more

Opps, I do get sidetracked, don't I ...sorry