Whats most important?

What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

Thanks,
Dave Mc

Dave Mc wrote:

What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

Thanks,
Dave Mc

On heavily fished water like you describe I'd rate them:

Presentation, fly selection, casting (reading water), stealth.

However, you probably have to use the first three to have consistent
success.

On other waters, the order would be different.

Willi

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:26:00 -0600, "Dave Mc" wrote:

What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.

Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

The quality of the doobage is paramount...

/daytripper (And thanks for asking ;-)

daytripper wrote:


The quality of the doobage is paramount...

No way, dude. It's catching fish. Duh!

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Dave Mc wrote:
What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

I'd say presentation and fly selection. Actually, the other two
(casting and stealth) are sort of components of presentation...

Lots of times they won't take anything because there's plenty of food
for them already in the water, so flay selection becomes critical
because you need something to illicit a strike/rise than entices or
angers them.... and in these cases, a "drag free" presentation may NOT
BE what you're looking for... you might need to "skate" a fly across the
surface or "swing" a streamer past the lie of a holding fish.

Larry

"Larry Medina" wrote in message
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Dave Mc wrote:
What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is
well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so,
they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

I'd say presentation and fly selection. Actually, the other two
(casting and stealth) are sort of components of presentation...

Lots of times they won't take anything because there's plenty of food
for them already in the water, so flay selection becomes critical
because you need something to illicit a strike/rise than entices or
angers them.... and in these cases, a "drag free" presentation may NOT
BE what you're looking for... you might need to "skate" a fly across the
surface or "swing" a streamer past the lie of a holding fish.

Larry

Hey....odd presentations work for every OTHER kind of fish at one time or
another. Why not trout, too?

"Dave Mc" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?


Enjoying it.

TL
MC

Mike answers:
Enjoying it.

We have a winner!!! The Only correct answer possible to this question. Many
times in the situation described, folks allow fishing to become angst-ridden.
Within the confines of the original question, stealth goes a lot farther than
people assume. Just because the fish are "used" to people fishing, doesn't mean
they are happy about it, or feed normally when people are observed. Try hiding
very quietly and see if they don't start feeding.....then trot out the other
skills mentioned.
Tom
p.s. this hiding period might take quite a while for the fish to relax, so
refer to Daytripper's answer, as well.

Trippers answer is correct no matter what the situation......Othe than that
throw a concussion grenade open up a fish see what they are eating select
proper fly move upstream about a mile and try again......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

LOL , yup I agree. Having fun is the most important.
But... it sure would be nice to add to a fish or two for the effort.

I'll tell you what made me think of this question.
I was fishing the area described. Two guys were upstream from me. One
guy was crawling (on shore)on his hands & knees, laid on his belly and
casted 3 or 4 feet to the fish. The other guy was standing on a rock about
4 feet above the water. He looked about 10 feet tall over the water! ( I
grinned and wished I had my camera) Both were fishing the same large pool.
I was fishing dries and my buddy was fishing every nymph pattern he could
find in his box. Nothing all evening, we all got skunked.
We couldn't move easily to another spot because the stream was crowed.
So,we're all trying different things and nothing is working.
I think I know why the guy on the rock isn't catching anything but the
guy sneaking up on them wasn't doing any better.
I was just wondering if perhaps we were all doing the same thing wrong
(fly selection, presentation, whatever) or if it was the fishes fault once
again.
I must admit... at times like that... I would LOVE to be
the guy pulling 'em in!
Maybe next time!
Thanks for all your responses everyone.
Dave Mc

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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Mike answers:
Enjoying it.

We have a winner!!! The Only correct answer possible to this question.
Many
times in the situation described, folks allow fishing to become
angst-ridden.
Within the confines of the original question, stealth goes a lot farther
than
people assume. Just because the fish are "used" to people fishing, doesn't
mean
they are happy about it, or feed normally when people are observed. Try
hiding
very quietly and see if they don't start feeding.....then trot out the
other
skills mentioned.
Tom
p.s. this hiding period might take quite a while for the fish to relax, so
refer to Daytripper's answer, as well.