Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update

Did some driving today, talked to two shop owners and have devised
what I think could be considered a *plan*. Subject to approval, of
course.

Departure Point = New Berlin. According to Mapquest, the trip from
Coburn to New Berlin is just over 30 miles and about an hour long.
There's a park just downstream of the PA204 bridge that has a crude
boat ramp. It's a very public area right behind the American Legion
bldg. Should be practically zero risk of vandalism, etc. while we're
gone.

Destination = Kratzerville. Should be about a 6 mile float with lots
of excellent fishing. No boat ramp at the departure point, but we're
not exactly hauling 200hp Bass 'n' Ski boats. This is private land
but is supposedly OK as a landing area. I will make a point to knock
on a door or two before clave time to ask permission.

The drive from Kratzerville to New Berlin is short - 12 minutes
according to Mapquest.

Here's a link to a map of the area:
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18...& datum=nad83

By canoe, I can provide floatation for one other angler and can also
carry a cooler.

Flies: Ted recommended wet flies - big ones - preferably a cast of
2-3. He likes yellow on this creek at this time. He also recommended
a Reub Wood.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feat...es/part99.html
Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Looking forward to it,
Tom G

Tom Gibson wrote:
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Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Never mind, don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Tom Gibson wrote:
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Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Never mind, don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?


Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!
...

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!
...

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? Don't bother.......you wouldn't like it.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? snip

May I play through? I was thinking as I read about the float trip that it
would really make for a pleasant change of pace at Penns. Since youze guyz will
be there for a week or better anyway, a little smallie action should be a nice
shift. Good luck.

But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? Don't bother.......you wouldn't like it.

You don't get it. I LOVE baseball.

Better go back to being incomprehensible, inscrutable just ain't gonna
work for you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote in message . com...
Tom Gibson wrote:
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Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Can I call 'em or what?

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

Why limit yourself to "some of the finest trout waters..." when only a
few miles downsteam are some of the finest smallmouth bass waters...
But then again, aren't you the guy that prefers one and only one brand
of beer? Me, I'm with Morgan Freeman's character in "Robin Hood" when
he says Allah loves wondrous variety. I happen to enjoy more than one
type of fishing and nearly all types of beer.

Oh, and that's "wet flies" not "****in' wooly buggers". G

And yes, we are all most definitely crazy, some more than others...

Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

Tom Gibson wrote:


Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

jeff (who has no interest in Paris...but loves hot dogs with ketchup...
obviously, i pass the penns' bronzeback school of dunces entrance exam)

Jeff wrote:
Tom Gibson wrote:
Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

I have definitely got room for one passenger in my canoe and three in my
vehicle. I may be able to rustle up a second canoe, but no promises.