fish i.d.

ya'll know of any good web-sites for fish identification, particularly when
you don't know the name. i'm trying to figure out what i caught today.
thought it was a catfish because it had whiskers, but i don't see the fish
on the chart i have in my tackle box.
thanks in advance-
snake

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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ya'll know of any good web-sites for fish identification, particularly
when
you don't know the name. i'm trying to figure out what i caught today.
thought it was a catfish because it had whiskers, but i don't see the fish
on the chart i have in my tackle box.
thanks in advance-
snake

Did a Google search on north american freshwater fish identification. Got
the following:

http://www.fishpondinfo.com/misc2.htm#cat (has links to several other
sites)
http://www.epa.gov/bioindicators/html/fish_id.html (links to various state
fish identification guides)


There are numerous others that I didn't bother to look through.

Some time ago I discovered (quite by accident) a wonderful resource that
takes a bit of mining but pays of handsomely. Check out:

http://www.firstgov.gov/

This is the U.S government's official web portal. It's an incredible
resource. A few months ago I spent a lot of time looking at thousands of
photos of fish archived by NOAA (if memory serves). Click on the "graphics
and photos" link on the home page and take it from there.

Good luck.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
ya'll know of any good web-sites for fish identification, particularly
when
you don't know the name. i'm trying to figure out what i caught today.
thought it was a catfish because it had whiskers, but i don't see the
fish
on the chart i have in my tackle box.
thanks in advance-
snake

Did a Google search on north american freshwater fish identification. Got
the following:

http://www.fishpondinfo.com/misc2.htm#cat (has links to several other
sites)
http://www.epa.gov/bioindicators/html/fish_id.html (links to various
state
fish identification guides)


There are numerous others that I didn't bother to look through.

Some time ago I discovered (quite by accident) a wonderful resource that
takes a bit of mining but pays of handsomely. Check out:

http://www.firstgov.gov/

This is the U.S government's official web portal. It's an incredible
resource. A few months ago I spent a lot of time looking at thousands of
photos of fish archived by NOAA (if memory serves). Click on the
"graphics
and photos" link on the home page and take it from there.

Good luck.

Wolfgang

thanks wolfgang. i'm there.
snake

Thanks Wolfgang

Awesome Gov website I never knew about it

Steve
Sebring, FL

Websites are pretty much useless unless you know the name of what you got.
When you start catching catching those unidentifible daces, darters, chubs
etc, You need the Audubon Society field Guide to North American Fishes,
Whales and Dolphins. A great book and well worth $ 10.00 or better yet at
$1.85
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...?condition=all


"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
ya'll know of any good web-sites for fish identification, particularly
when
you don't know the name. i'm trying to figure out what i caught today.
thought it was a catfish because it had whiskers, but i don't see the fish
on the chart i have in my tackle box.
thanks in advance-
snake

"B J Conner" wrote in message
...
Websites are pretty much useless unless you know the name of what you got.
When you start catching catching those unidentifible daces, darters, chubs
etc, You need the Audubon Society field Guide to North American Fishes,
Whales and Dolphins. A great book and well worth $ 10.00 or better yet
at
$1.85

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...?condition=all

Hm.......

If you don't know the name of what you got, the Audubon field guides
(excellent books, all) require that you page through the pictures until you
find the one that matches.

Why is that better than a website that requires you to search through the
pictures until you find one that matches what you got?

Wolfgang
whose own field guide to the idiots, dolts, fools, pez-heads, nitwits,
poltroons, and maroons of north america is due for release in the near
future......check you local bookstores!

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"B J Conner" wrote in message
...
Websites are pretty much useless unless you know the name of what you
got.
When you start catching catching those unidentifible daces, darters,
chubs
etc, You need the Audubon Society field Guide to North American Fishes,
Whales and Dolphins. A great book and well worth $ 10.00 or better yet
at
$1.85


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...?condition=all

Hm.......

If you don't know the name of what you got, the Audubon field guides
(excellent books, all) require that you page through the pictures until
you
find the one that matches.

Why is that better than a website that requires you to search through the
pictures until you find one that matches what you got?

Wolfgang
whose own field guide to the idiots, dolts, fools, pez-heads, nitwits,
poltroons, and maroons of north america is due for release in the near
future......check you local bookstores!


Try searchign the web for things like "elongated fishe with long snouts" or
"disc shaped fishes" or a "brown sucker with yellowinsh fins" With the book
there easy and fast. After you get the general ideal of what fish you
looking at you can look up a Red Sided Dace on the web and find out every
thing there is to know about them. The Audubon book has good drawings that
help your zero in on the fish. Remember- a picture is worth a thousand
words and one girl is worth a thousand pictures.

Don't think your book will do that well. That group is probably localized
right around you, you all know each other and you guys wouldn't need a
book if you could read.

"B J Conner" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"B J Conner" wrote in message
...
Websites are pretty much useless unless you know the name of what you
got.
When you start catching catching those unidentifible daces, darters,
chubs
etc, You need the Audubon Society field Guide to North American
Fishes,
Whales and Dolphins. A great book and well worth $ 10.00 or better
yet
at
$1.85



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...?condition=all

Hm.......

If you don't know the name of what you got, the Audubon field guides
(excellent books, all) require that you page through the pictures until
you
find the one that matches.

Why is that better than a website that requires you to search through
the
pictures until you find one that matches what you got?

Wolfgang
whose own field guide to the idiots, dolts, fools, pez-heads, nitwits,
poltroons, and maroons of north america is due for release in the near
future......check you local bookstores!


Try searchign the web for things like "elongated fishe with long snouts"
or
"disc shaped fishes" or a "brown sucker with yellowinsh fins" With the
book
there easy and fast. After you get the general ideal of what fish you
looking at you can look up a Red Sided Dace on the web and find out every
thing there is to know about them. The Audubon book has good drawings that
help your zero in on the fish. Remember- a picture is worth a thousand
words and one girl is worth a thousand pictures.

A Google search on "elongated fish with long snouts" (yes, I took the
liberty of using the modern spelling of fish) produced 540 hits. "Disc
shaped fishes" got 9210. "Brown sucker with yellowish fins" resulted in
only 306. It will come as no surprise that I didn't investigate all of them
thoroughly. I did, however, look at a few. Fascinating stuff. I am
confident that in less time than it would take me to get to the bookstore,
purchase a book, and return home I could winnow through some of the more
promising and find something very useful for identifying fish. Then too, as
I noted in my response to Snakefiddler, I already have some useful sites
picked out. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the "useless" theory.

Don't think your book will do that well.

That is a risk every author must necessarily face.

That group is probably localized
right around you,

True enough. Every known specimen is right here on our own little planet.

you all know each other and you guys wouldn't need a
book if you could read.

Hm.......people who are literate have no use for books? Presumably then,
you would reserve them for the illiterate (I mean, who else is left right?).
I think that I might like to see your undoubtedly extensive collection some
day.......um......not that it would do me any good......I suppose.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote Wolfgang
whose own field guide to the idiots, dolts, fools, pez-heads, nitwits,
poltroons, and maroons of north america is due for release in the near
future......check you local bookstores!

you left out "louts", and i take personal affrontery such as that very,
very seriously!

yfitons
wayno (and if you don't know what it means, you can't look it up in bj's
dictionary, and he can't help you.)

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"B J Conner" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"B J Conner" wrote in message
...
Websites are pretty much useless unless you know the name of what
you
got.
When you start catching catching those unidentifible daces, darters,
chubs
etc, You need the Audubon Society field Guide to North American
Fishes,
Whales and Dolphins. A great book and well worth $ 10.00 or better
yet
at
$1.85




http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...?condition=all

Hm.......

If you don't know the name of what you got, the Audubon field guides
(excellent books, all) require that you page through the pictures
until
you
find the one that matches.

Why is that better than a website that requires you to search through
the
pictures until you find one that matches what you got?

Wolfgang
whose own field guide to the idiots, dolts, fools, pez-heads, nitwits,
poltroons, and maroons of north america is due for release in the near
future......check you local bookstores!


Try searchign the web for things like "elongated fishe with long snouts"
or
"disc shaped fishes" or a "brown sucker with yellowinsh fins" With the
book
there easy and fast. After you get the general ideal of what fish you
looking at you can look up a Red Sided Dace on the web and find out
every
thing there is to know about them. The Audubon book has good drawings
that
help your zero in on the fish. Remember- a picture is worth a thousand
words and one girl is worth a thousand pictures.

A Google search on "elongated fish with long snouts" (yes, I took the
liberty of using the modern spelling of fish) produced 540 hits. "Disc
shaped fishes" got 9210. "Brown sucker with yellowish fins" resulted in
only 306. It will come as no surprise that I didn't investigate all of
them
thoroughly. I did, however, look at a few. Fascinating stuff. I am
confident that in less time than it would take me to get to the bookstore,
purchase a book, and return home I could winnow through some of the more
promising and find something very useful for identifying fish. Then too,
as
I noted in my response to Snakefiddler, I already have some useful sites
picked out. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the "useless" theory.

Don't think your book will do that well.

That is a risk every author must necessarily face.

That group is probably localized
right around you,

True enough. Every known specimen is right here on our own little planet.

you all know each other and you guys wouldn't need a
book if you could read.

Hm.......people who are literate have no use for books? Presumably then,
you would reserve them for the illiterate (I mean, who else is left
right?).
I think that I might like to see your undoubtedly extensive collection
some
day.......um......not that it would do me any good......I suppose.

Wolfgang

Wow! Ididn't know how good your really are, I'm empressed. I posted three
pictrues over on ABPF. Can you find out what they are, and let me know how
you searched it out? If can learn it I'll interface the Iridium phone with
the Ipaq and can stop carrying that book with the pictures around.