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Old June 3rd, 2004, 07:37 PM
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I was fishing this past weekend for bluegill. My wife was useing her
Ultralight set up and live brown crickets. She was catching them with
almost everycast. Me...fishing a few feet from her with my flyrod was
catching just a few. I tried every pattern I had that resembled a cricket
or something similiar. The fish would always go to the live cricket. I
tried different presentation techniques. Different methods of
retrievals....etc..etc.... To no avail. Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


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Old June 3rd, 2004, 09:21 PM
Tim J.
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I was fishing this past weekend for bluegill. My wife was useing her
Ultralight set up and live brown crickets. She was catching them with
almost everycast. Me...fishing a few feet from her with my flyrod was
catching just a few. I tried every pattern I had that resembled a cricket
or something similiar. The fish would always go to the live cricket. I
tried different presentation techniques. Different methods of
retrievals....etc..etc.... To no avail. Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


Here's one that Warren contributed to a roff swap: http://tinyurl.com/27a2m
He wouldn't give up the recipe, so you're on your own. ;-)

If you *really* want to catch bluegill on just about every cast, Here's the
bluegill swap Stan hosted last year: http://tinyurl.com/24zqp
I can honestly say I've tried all of these and caught bluegill with each.
--
TL,
Tim
BTW, don't tell Warren, but I used that hopper for bluegill myownself and it
worked great.
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Old June 3rd, 2004, 10:05 PM
Stan Gula
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wrote...
Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


"TimJ wrote:
If you *really* want to catch bluegill on just about every cast, Here's

the
bluegill swap Stan hosted last year: http://tinyurl.com/24zqp
I can honestly say I've tried all of these and caught bluegill with each.


Note that Mike Bernardoni (mikeb) tied a Jitterbee for that swap.

Mike: did you think to try casting live crickets with your fly gear? I
would think any dark rectangular foam block with rubber legs would work,


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Old June 4th, 2004, 09:18 AM
Big Dale
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Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike



Terry and Roxanne Wilson wrote a book a few years ago on fly fishing for
bluegill and the pattern he came up with is called Bully's Bluegill Spider. It
does not look anything like a cricket, but is intended to sink the way a
cricket does. It is weighted with most of the weight on the rear of the hook
and a chenille body and some round rubber legs stacked on the front of the body
so that the fly sinks with the butt sinking first. I find that it is sometimes
very effective for bluegills if you fish it where you should. I find it works
best around drop-offs. terry ties them in several colors, but the last time I
watched him tying at a conclave he was tying them in a hot pink color. At that
time that color had beek just slaying them for some unknown reason. I don't
pretend to understand some of this **** sometimes. I tie them most often with
variegated (sp) chenille. I tie them on size 10 dry fly hooks and they are easy
to tie once you get used to the strange way of weighting the hook and it still
feels a little odd trying to stack those round ruber legs.

Big Dale
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Old June 4th, 2004, 03:01 PM
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I have tied the "Bully Spider" but didn't have any to try. thanks for the
suggestion! MIKE
"Big Dale" wrote in message
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wrote...
Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


Terry and Roxanne Wilson wrote a book a few years ago on fly fishing for
bluegill and the pattern he came up with is called Bully's Bluegill

Spider. It
does not look anything like a cricket, but is intended to sink the way a
cricket does. It is weighted with most of the weight on the rear of the

hook
and a chenille body and some round rubber legs stacked on the front of the

body
so that the fly sinks with the butt sinking first. I find that it is

sometimes
very effective for bluegills if you fish it where you should. I find it

works
best around drop-offs. terry ties them in several colors, but the last

time I
watched him tying at a conclave he was tying them in a hot pink color. At

that
time that color had beek just slaying them for some unknown reason. I

don't
pretend to understand some of this **** sometimes. I tie them most often

with
variegated (sp) chenille. I tie them on size 10 dry fly hooks and they are

easy
to tie once you get used to the strange way of weighting the hook and it

still
feels a little odd trying to stack those round ruber legs.

Big Dale



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Old June 4th, 2004, 02:26 PM
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Yep it was me that tied the "Jitterbee". {:O) I never thought about using
live bait on my flyrod....I guess I think it may be a sacrilege and me
being hardheaded!! {:O)But I know people do it all the time. I did get a few
fish with a sinking fly that had black foam on it and rubber legs. MIKE
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wrote...
Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


"TimJ wrote:
If you *really* want to catch bluegill on just about every cast, Here's

the
bluegill swap Stan hosted last year: http://tinyurl.com/24zqp
I can honestly say I've tried all of these and caught bluegill with

each.

Note that Mike Bernardoni (mikeb) tied a Jitterbee for that swap.

Mike: did you think to try casting live crickets with your fly gear? I
would think any dark rectangular foam block with rubber legs would work,




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Old June 3rd, 2004, 09:23 PM
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: Cricket Pattern??


I was fishing this past weekend for bluegill. My wife was useing her
Ultralight set up and live brown crickets. She was catching them with
almost everycast. Me...fishing a few feet from her with my flyrod was
catching just a few. I tried every pattern I had that resembled a cricket
or something similiar. The fish would always go to the live cricket. I
tried different presentation techniques. Different methods of
retrievals....etc..etc.... To no avail. Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


I've noticed (both outdoors and in a native fish aquarium) that bluegills
have two modes of attack: immediate or checking things out first. If they're
hungry and used to eating a certain thing, they'll hit it with little or no
hesitation. If they're feeling picky or aren't sure something's edible,
they'll slide up but stop dead several times to eyeball (and I'm sure sniff)
it. With real crickets, everything's go at these inspections, whereas
something with hook, foam, and feathers is likely to be rejected a certain
fraction of the time.



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Old June 3rd, 2004, 10:06 PM
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Thanks for the response. I had never thought about it but where I was
fishing the water is crystal clear. I could spy a group of gills and would
cast into or near them. They would immediatly start swimming to the fly.
Mouth it and go (or spit out) or just turn away when they got a good look
at it, 9 times out of 10 they would look and turn away. but with the live
crickets...BOOM.....no hesitation. MIKE

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----- Original Message -----
From:
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: Cricket Pattern??


I was fishing this past weekend for bluegill. My wife was useing her
Ultralight set up and live brown crickets. She was catching them with
almost everycast. Me...fishing a few feet from her with my flyrod was
catching just a few. I tried every pattern I had that resembled a

cricket
or something similiar. The fish would always go to the live cricket. I
tried different presentation techniques. Different methods of
retrievals....etc..etc.... To no avail. Is there pattern for a brown
cricket that anyone has had success with??? Thanks Mike


I've noticed (both outdoors and in a native fish aquarium) that bluegills
have two modes of attack: immediate or checking things out first. If

they're
hungry and used to eating a certain thing, they'll hit it with little or

no
hesitation. If they're feeling picky or aren't sure something's edible,
they'll slide up but stop dead several times to eyeball (and I'm sure

sniff)
it. With real crickets, everything's go at these inspections, whereas
something with hook, foam, and feathers is likely to be rejected a certain
fraction of the time.





 




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