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Old June 16th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Skip Summer
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Default Flyline/Leader Connection Question

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip
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Old June 16th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip


I use store bought "continuous taper" leaders, 7.5' 3X.
Depending on the brand the thick end is between .019 and
..021, which translates to like 20lb. mono. The tipppet
end is .008, of course, about a 4 or 5lb test.

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Old June 16th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Jeff Taylor
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"Skip Summer" wrote in message
om...
Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use?


Look at the diameter of the large end of the leader and purchase butt
section that is the same or just a little larger in diameter. Least this is
what I do...

ymmv,
JT


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Old June 16th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Svend Tang-Petersen
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Default Flyline/Leader Connection Question

Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip


Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This

kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.

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Old June 16th, 2004, 10:33 PM
Jeff Taylor
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"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
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Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip


Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This

kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.


Granted Skip is talking about a 4 weight and the braided loop is probably
fine for that application, personally not my preference.

If you are fishing for pike, steelhead, salmon, large species, I would
suggest a nail knot connection... I know of a couple guys that fish pike
allot and they went away from the braided loop after having pike jerk the
loop off the fly line.

I tried the braided loop when they came out and found the end of a floating
line will sink. ymmv.

JT


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Old June 17th, 2004, 06:34 PM
Svend Tang-Petersen
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Granted Skip is talking about a 4 weight and the braided loop is probably
fine for that application, personally not my preference.

If you are fishing for pike, steelhead, salmon, large species, I would
suggest a nail knot connection... I know of a couple guys that fish pike
allot and they went away from the braided loop after having pike jerk the
loop off the fly line.

I tried the braided loop when they came out and found the end of a floating
line will sink. ymmv.

JT


There are two kinds of materials used for braids. The one commonly sold will
sink, but there's also a
floating version.

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Old June 17th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Jeff Taylor
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"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
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Granted Skip is talking about a 4 weight and the braided loop is

probably
fine for that application, personally not my preference.

If you are fishing for pike, steelhead, salmon, large species, I would
suggest a nail knot connection... I know of a couple guys that fish pike
allot and they went away from the braided loop after having pike jerk

the
loop off the fly line.

I tried the braided loop when they came out and found the end of a

floating
line will sink. ymmv.

JT


There are two kinds of materials used for braids. The one commonly sold

will
sink, but there's also a
floating version.


The only braided loops that I have used are the braided loops that came with
the Cortland fly lines I have used. Last year I purchased a floating 444
(peach, my favorite) and I can't remember if it came with a loop or not, so
I don't know if they still send the loops with their lines? However, the
floating Lazer Lines that I bought in the previous years had them and I had
trouble with the tip of my Lazers sinking... I figured, Cortland would send
the floating version with a floating line... Do you know if the loops sent
with a floating Cortland Series fly line are the floating version?

I must have a 1/2 dozen of them in my leader pouch, not sure why I have hung
on to them?

JT



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Old June 16th, 2004, 10:41 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Svend Tang-Petersen wrote:
Skip Summer wrote:
Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.


Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This
kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.


I think that's both bad advice and misinformation. I've seen
braided loops pull off and a fly line will break long before
a well tied nail knot will fail.

If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.

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Ken Fortenberry

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Old June 16th, 2004, 11:11 PM
rw
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.


The most elegant solution, if you want a loop connection for your
leader, is a whipped loop. It's easy to tie. You'll need a razor blade,
thread, a bobbin, and some head cement.

See:
http://www.flyfishinsalt.com/article...&categoryID=69

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Old June 16th, 2004, 11:33 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:11:45 -0600, rw
wrote:

The most elegant solution, if you want a loop connection for your
leader, is a whipped loop. It's easy to tie. You'll need a razor blade,
thread, a bobbin, and some head cement.

I used to do all my lines that way, now I use a braided loop but I
whip finish where the sleeve would go and coat the thread with
Aquaseal.
--
Charlie...
 




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