QUESTION: Hooks snapping on de-barb

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:


It was a barb on a #22 that got hooked in my son's eye lid and required
a doctor's help to remove. Since then I debarb everything I fish with.


So how did this hook end up there in the first place?

Scott Seidman wrote:
Chas,

I really should say absolutely nothing here, cause your boy was at
risk,
and it couldn't have been a very pleasant situation, but was your son
wearing eye protection??

It's a good enough point that I can't take offense at it. This was
about 20 years ago, and people hadn't gotten into the radical defend
the kids from everything mode yet.


When I teach in the courses, I gear up, and I ask the audience to call
out
the most important piece of gear I'm wearing. I make sure they all
understand that it's my glasses or sunglasses, and why. Next, I take
my
whistle out of my wader pocket. Then my wading staff.

I'm with you on the glasses, but I put a hat next, and don't bother
with either the whistle or the wading staff. I can yell as loud as a
whistle, and I'd just trip over the staff. I call the hat my "casting
helmet". A full brim, not a baseball cap.


Of course, your son could have caught a hook anywhere on his body, and
you
would have had a similar problem, but not as nervewracking. Hell, for
all
I know, your boy could have had a freak accident at the tying vise.

This part, though true, is irrelevant.

Chas
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html

Chas Wade wrote in news:dQbbb.115190$mp.58539
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Scott Seidman wrote:
Chas,

I really should say absolutely nothing here, cause your boy was at
risk,
and it couldn't have been a very pleasant situation, but was your son
wearing eye protection??

It's a good enough point that I can't take offense at it. This was
about 20 years ago, and people hadn't gotten into the radical defend
the kids from everything mode yet.


When I teach in the courses, I gear up, and I ask the audience to call
out
the most important piece of gear I'm wearing. I make sure they all
understand that it's my glasses or sunglasses, and why. Next, I take
my
whistle out of my wader pocket. Then my wading staff.

I'm with you on the glasses, but I put a hat next, and don't bother
with either the whistle or the wading staff. I can yell as loud as a
whistle, and I'd just trip over the staff. I call the hat my "casting
helmet". A full brim, not a baseball cap.


Of course, your son could have caught a hook anywhere on his body, and
you
would have had a similar problem, but not as nervewracking. Hell, for
all
I know, your boy could have had a freak accident at the tying vise.

This part, though true, is irrelevant.

Chas
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html



Chas-

Tremendously happy that you took this in the spirit with which it was
intended.

Fully agree on the staff, BTW. I use a folding one, just so I always
have it and might not trip over it. I also try to use it exclusively for
wading myself out of trouble, but the temptation is always there to wade
myself into trouble. Also, a staff is really no substitute for an
attentive wading buddy.

The whistle, though, I really push. You can yell as loudly as a whistle
can, FOR AWHILE, assuming you're not injured. For a three buck
investment and a tiny space in my vest, I'll keep carrying the whistle.

What's your son doing these days, BTW??

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...

You can yell as loudly as a whistle
can, FOR AWHILE, assuming you're not injured.....

Maybe. I remain skeptical. But volume and tenacity aren't necessarily
always the key issues, anyway. High frequency sounds carry much better
through background noise.......like rushing water, or wind in the trees.
Birds figured it out years ago. In addition, a signal note, regardless of
pitch, is much more likely to be noticed if it is of long duration. A
whistle requires relatively little air flow. It's pretty easy to hold a
note for thirty seconds or more on a whistle. Try that with a maximum
volume shout sometime.......and half a dozen or so shouts like that will
pretty much fry most people's vocal cords.

Wolfgang
tweet, tweet!

Wolfie.
I used to carry one of those little cans of compressed gas with the horn
on top in my fishing vest. I figured it would carry a lot further than
hollering.
Ernie

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...

You can yell as loudly as a whistle
can, FOR AWHILE, assuming you're not injured.....

Maybe. I remain skeptical. But volume and tenacity aren't necessarily
always the key issues, anyway. High frequency sounds carry much better
through background noise.......like rushing water, or wind in the trees.
Birds figured it out years ago. In addition, a signal note, regardless of
pitch, is much more likely to be noticed if it is of long duration. A
whistle requires relatively little air flow. It's pretty easy to hold a
note for thirty seconds or more on a whistle. Try that with a maximum
volume shout sometime.......and half a dozen or so shouts like that will
pretty much fry most people's vocal cords.

Wolfgang
tweet, tweet!

"Ernie" NO_ wrote in message
m...
Wolfie.
I used to carry one of those little cans of compressed gas with the
horn
on top in my fishing vest. I figured it would carry a lot further than
hollering.
Ernie

I'm sure it would. And I suspect it's at least as loud as a
whistle.....probably louder. Also easy to operate. On the minus side;
bulky, expensive, relatively heavy and.....I don't know, how long will one
of those thing go?

Wolfgang

"Ernie" NO_ wrote in
m:

Wolfie.
I used to carry one of those little cans of compressed gas with the
horn
on top in my fishing vest. I figured it would carry a lot further
than hollering.
Ernie



My wife would reply to this with some comment that I bear striking
similarity to a little can of compressed gas with a horn.

Scott

"Wolfgang" wrote in
:


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...

You can yell as loudly as a whistle
can, FOR AWHILE, assuming you're not injured.....

Maybe. I remain skeptical. But volume and tenacity aren't
necessarily always the key issues, anyway. High frequency sounds
carry much better through background noise.......like rushing water,
or wind in the trees. Birds figured it out years ago. In addition, a
signal note, regardless of pitch, is much more likely to be noticed if
it is of long duration. A whistle requires relatively little air
flow. It's pretty easy to hold a note for thirty seconds or more on a
whistle. Try that with a maximum volume shout sometime.......and half
a dozen or so shouts like that will pretty much fry most people's
vocal cords.

Wolfgang
tweet, tweet!



Don't have to sell it to me. I'm with you. Pound for pound and dollar for
dollar, in terms of safety equipment, a whistle is a hell of a deal. I
also think that when you have a whistle, everybody around you is a little
bit safer. Let's say you use a buddy system, one buddy busts a long bone
descending a gorge-- now what. Without a whistle, there's a larger chance
that the uninjured guy will have to hike back up and get help, or carry the
breakee out of the gorge solo, but with a whistle there's a bigger chance
that help might come to you.

I'll keep promoting my whistle carry to newbies.

Scott

Scott Seidman wrote:

Don't have to sell it to me. I'm with you. Pound for pound and dollar for
dollar, in terms of safety equipment, a whistle is a hell of a deal.


And, as a free bonus, you can use it to call your dog.

Kevin

I'll keep promoting my whistle carry to newbies.
Scott

I think such a small device is worth the weight. My bootlaces weigh more
than most whistles.

Two people were drowned while wade fishing local flats this weekend. One
non-swimmer was caught in the current and the second man went to his rescue.
Every time I'm out fishing I see people standing near channels submerged to
their armpits.

I don't normally wade that deep in any water. But such events make me
reconsider the purchase of an inflatable belt or suspenders.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar
Save a cow, eat a PETA

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