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Old July 21st, 2004, 06:06 PM
Sideshow Raheem
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What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!


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Old July 21st, 2004, 08:06 PM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



There's been a lot of controversy over what to do with gut hooked fish. The
one article that I've read that makes the most sense can be found at the
following link:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0

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Old July 21st, 2004, 09:36 PM
Rodney
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0


WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking
fish, which I have stopped doing .

I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in
the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and
rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going
past the hook's eye into the fish

On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook

I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from
blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh
water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top
lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural
baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when
the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind
the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner
of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight
still keeps that hook from getting swallowed.

I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking
either, but you will/might miss some fish :-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

  #4  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:33 AM
Rob Storm
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Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com
  #5  
Old July 21st, 2004, 09:36 PM
Rodney
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0


WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking
fish, which I have stopped doing .

I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in
the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and
rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going
past the hook's eye into the fish

On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook

I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from
blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh
water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top
lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural
baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when
the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind
the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner
of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight
still keeps that hook from getting swallowed.

I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking
either, but you will/might miss some fish :-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

  #6  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:33 AM
Rob Storm
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com
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Old July 21st, 2004, 11:04 PM
Richard Liebert
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Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!




  #8  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 12:59 AM
Dan Krueger
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That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that


3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!






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Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:23 AM
Richard Liebert
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Default Swallowed Hooks

The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!








  #10  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM
Richard Liebert
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!










 




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