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What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! |
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![]() "Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03... What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! There's been a lot of controversy over what to do with gut hooked fish. The one article that I've read that makes the most sense can be found at the following link: http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0 -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0 WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking fish, which I have stopped doing . I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going past the hook's eye into the fish On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight still keeps that hook from getting swallowed. I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking either, but you will/might miss some fish :-) -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been practicing barbless bassing ever since. Family, Friends, Fishing, Rob Storm http://stormsrestaurants.com |
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0 WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking fish, which I have stopped doing . I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going past the hook's eye into the fish On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight still keeps that hook from getting swallowed. I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking either, but you will/might miss some fish :-) -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been practicing barbless bassing ever since. Family, Friends, Fishing, Rob Storm http://stormsrestaurants.com |
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Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival, especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if at all. "Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03... What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! |
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That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.
Dan Richard Liebert wrote: Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival, especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if at all. "Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03... What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! |
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The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the throat. I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study. I'll post the study if I can find it. "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic. Dan Richard Liebert wrote: Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival, especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if at all. "Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03... What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! |
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Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.
http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm "Richard Liebert" wrote in message ... The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the throat. I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study. I'll post the study if I can find it. "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic. Dan Richard Liebert wrote: Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival, especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if at all. "Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03... What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3 pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder... Thanks! |
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