Damselfly emergers?

Has anyone ever come across a pattern that would imitate when a damselfly
emerges from the nymph form to the adult stage? I've seen plenty of nymph
patterns and drowned (dead) adult patterns, but nothing that would imitate
the emergence. Or am I just missing something?

Thanx in advance for any help.

Hooked wrote:
Has anyone ever come across a pattern that would imitate when a
damselfly emerges from the nymph form to the adult stage? I've seen
plenty of nymph patterns and drowned (dead) adult patterns, but
nothing that would imitate the emergence. Or am I just missing
something?

Thanx in advance for any help.

Probably not, because the nymphs swim to shore (or any convenient object)
and climb out of the water to emerge. For the same reason, you don't find
patterns for emerging stoneflies, dobsonflies, isonychias, etc. The fish
never see the emergence.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
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Probably not, because the nymphs swim to shore (or any convenient object)
and climb out of the water to emerge. For the same reason, you don't find
patterns for emerging stoneflies, dobsonflies, isonychias, etc. The fish
never see the emergence.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps


Damn. I was looking for a better pattern to fish with than something the
fish, like me, always see.

Oh well.



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"Hooked" wrote in
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Damn. I was looking for a better pattern to fish with than something
the fish, like me, always see.

Oh well.


You could try fishing "where" the fish see the nymphs. I suppose it'll
depend on the water and insect. I've seen them both at the surface, with
the damsels in the top two inches or so ... and now I think about it
running with the wind ?? Perhaps.


Steve

"Hooked" wrote in
:



Damn. I was looking for a better pattern to fish with than something
the fish, like me, always see.

Oh well.


You could try fishing "where" the fish see the nymphs. I suppose it'll
depend on the water and insect. I've seen them both at the surface, with
the damsels in the top two inches or so ... and now I think about it
running with the wind ?? Perhaps.


Steve

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
news:KfxPc.203$XV5.32@trndny06...


Probably not, because the nymphs swim to shore (or any convenient object)
and climb out of the water to emerge. For the same reason, you don't find
patterns for emerging stoneflies, dobsonflies, isonychias, etc. The fish
never see the emergence.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps


Damn. I was looking for a better pattern to fish with than something the
fish, like me, always see.

Oh well.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas."
-George W. Bush

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
news:KfxPc.203$XV5.32@trndny06...


Probably not, because the nymphs swim to shore (or any convenient object)
and climb out of the water to emerge. For the same reason, you don't find
patterns for emerging stoneflies, dobsonflies, isonychias, etc. The fish
never see the emergence.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps


Damn. I was looking for a better pattern to fish with than something the
fish, like me, always see.

Oh well.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas."
-George W. Bush

In article , Hooked
writes
Has anyone ever come across a pattern that would imitate when a damselfly
emerges from the nymph form to the adult stage? I've seen plenty of nymph
patterns and drowned (dead) adult patterns, but nothing that would imitate
the emergence. Or am I just missing something?

As far as I know, the nymph crawls ashore or up onto some vegetation to
transform to the adult stage. The "emerger" stage takes place out of the
water so you won't have to fish with an "emerger"

The damsel nymph is and excellent pattern simply because it will be
present in practically all still waters.

All you need is some olive chenille for the body, some olive marabou for
the tail, and I like to use brown partridge hackle for the legs. I don't
mess about with bead eyes and all those fancy accessories, and my
patterns catch fish OK. Use a large (say#10) hook - long shank. Some
lead wire tied under the body material will help.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Bill wrote:snipAll you need is some olive chenille for the body, some olive
marabou for
the tail, and I like to use brown partridge hackle for the legs

If you collect the some of these creatures , it will surprise you how thin the
body of the nymph is. I find that hard to duplicate with Chenille, and prefer
to dub the body very thin with something like wool or superfine dubbing for the
abdoman using just enough to slightly change the color of the thread. I like to
tie them on swimming nymph hooks and use either bead chain painted black or a
pair of black plastic beads that I find in sewing shops for the eyes of the
ones that I want to run very shallow. I use olive Squirrel dubbing in a loop
for the thorax and partridge for the legs.

Big Dale

In article , Big Dale
writes

If you collect the some of these creatures , it will surprise you how thin the
body of the nymph is. I find that hard to duplicate with Chenille, and prefer
to dub the body very thin with something like wool or superfine dubbing for the
abdoman using just enough to slightly change the color of the thread. I like to
tie them on swimming nymph hooks and use either bead chain painted black or a
pair of black plastic beads that I find in sewing shops for the eyes of the
ones that I want to run very shallow. I use olive Squirrel dubbing in a loop
for the thorax and partridge for the legs.

Hi Big Dale,

Your tying is excellent BD, but although the insect is thin, we so ften
tie imitations that are bigger than the naturals. An example is the
midge pupa - the buzzer. Tied on a # 14 sedge hook it is enormous
compared to a natural, but the fish love them.

In my brief description of the tying, I forgot to mention the thorax.
This I usually tie with a slightly darker dubbed olive dubbing material
with a "wing" case of pheasant tail tied over and dividing the brown
partridge hackle. As for eyes, I don't usually bother, but on occasions
when I want a fly that will sink well, I tie in a gold head bead which
is then placed beneath the pheasant tail wing case. black eyes can be
painted on the bead if needed.

The trout aren't really fussy as long as it roughly represents the
natural.
Of course a well tied imitative pattern is a joy to behold :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk