TR --- I hate statistics

I keep my fishing journal on my website. I wanted a puter program journal
that did certain things, but couldn't find one I liked. A simple scripting
language designed to control browser output, is all the puterspeak I knew,
so I rolled my own and put it when I can access it from nearly anywhere.

Bored, on a rainy day around X-mas, I got the idea of having the entries
generate statistics. I sat down and re-wrote the script at that time.

Yesterday was the year's first that I unpacked a rod, and it leaves me
regreting the statistics idea

Cut and paste, here are my stats for 2005 :-(



Note: These statistics are calculated based on these rules.

(1) Anytime I rig up a rod and leave the truck it is counted as a day's
fishing, even if I never take a cast and or I'm back at the truck in only a
few minutes.


(2) My "fishing" hours are "truck to truck" times, rounded up to nearest
quarter hour. Thus, if I leave the vehicle, walk an hour, look for fish an
hour, make casts for fifteen minutes, take a half hour lunch, then walk an
hour back to the truck ... it will be calculated as a 3.75 hour day.


(3) Landed means to hand, i.e. I touched the fish and intentionally set it
free. If the fish escapes at the last second, it is recorded in the "hooked
and lost" statistics. Very small fish, for the water being fished, are not
counted at all.




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Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.

"Larry L" wrote

I keep my fishing journal on my website.


oh, and yesterday's full report

http://www.kimshew.com/flyfish/displ...php?log_id=143

Larry,

I agree with most of your rules except for the "landed" category. I count
it as caught if I get my hand on any part of the leader or fish. I justify
this by figuring that I was going to release it anyway, the last fish I kept
was in September 1980. It really doesn't matter though, since I don't keep a
log anymore. I enjoyed your e-mail and am sure your stats will improve over
time :-)

Gene

"Larry L" wrote in message
news
I keep my fishing journal on my website. I wanted a puter program
journal
that did certain things, but couldn't find one I liked. A simple
scripting
language designed to control browser output, is all the puterspeak I knew,
so I rolled my own and put it when I can access it from nearly anywhere.

Bored, on a rainy day around X-mas, I got the idea of having the entries
generate statistics. I sat down and re-wrote the script at that time.

Yesterday was the year's first that I unpacked a rod, and it leaves me
regreting the statistics idea

Cut and paste, here are my stats for 2005 :-(



Note: These statistics are calculated based on these rules.

(1) Anytime I rig up a rod and leave the truck it is counted as a day's
fishing, even if I never take a cast and or I'm back at the truck in only
a
few minutes.


(2) My "fishing" hours are "truck to truck" times, rounded up to nearest
quarter hour. Thus, if I leave the vehicle, walk an hour, look for fish an
hour, make casts for fifteen minutes, take a half hour lunch, then walk an
hour back to the truck ... it will be calculated as a 3.75 hour day.


(3) Landed means to hand, i.e. I touched the fish and intentionally set it
free. If the fish escapes at the last second, it is recorded in the
"hooked
and lost" statistics. Very small fish, for the water being fished, are not
counted at all.




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Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.

Larry L wrote:

Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.

That's about average. :-)

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

...... here are my stats for 2005 :-(

Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.

Hell, Larry, those aren't statistics, those are "data."

It ain't statistics until you calculate a standard deviation, a
standard error of the mean, and run a multiple regression using a
variety of independent variables including air temperature, water
temperature, water depth and flow velocity, color of your fly line,
rod length, whether or not you smoke cigars while fishing, and so
forth.

vince

"rw" wrote


That's about average. :-)


closer to mine than I care to admit :-(

"vincent p. norris" wrote

you calculate a standard deviation, a
standard error of the mean, and run a multiple regression using a
variety of independent variables

now I really hate statistics :-)

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...
Larry,

I agree with most of your rules except for the "landed" category. I count
it as caught if I get my hand on any part of the leader or fish. I
justify
this by figuring that I was going to release it anyway, the last fish I
kept
was in September 1980. It really doesn't matter though, since I don't keep
a
log anymore. I enjoyed your e-mail and am sure your stats will improve
over
time :-)


Hmm, personally I don't count a fish as landed until I have it in my hand,
with complete control over it. The hardest part (aside from getting it to
take the fly) is to get it from your feet to your hand, with the hook out.
Grabbing the leader and having it break off (or having the fish spit it out)
is equivalent in my mind to pulling the hook out of his mouth while setting
it.
Of course, YMMV
--riverman

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"vincent p. norris" wrote

you calculate a standard deviation, a
standard error of the mean, and run a multiple regression using a
variety of independent variables

now I really hate statistics :-)

Don't sweat it. Based on your data, those particular statistics are easier
than you think to calulate.
:-)

--riverman

riverman wrote:
"Gene Cottrell" wrote in
message ...
Larry,

I agree with most of your rules except for the "landed" category. I
count it as caught if I get my hand on any part of the leader or
fish. I justify
this by figuring that I was going to release it anyway, the last
fish I kept
was in September 1980. It really doesn't matter though, since I
don't keep a
log anymore. I enjoyed your e-mail and am sure your stats will
improve over
time :-)


Hmm, personally I don't count a fish as landed until I have it in my
hand, with complete control over it. The hardest part (aside from
getting it to take the fly) is to get it from your feet to your hand,
with the hook out. Grabbing the leader and having it break off (or
having the fish spit it out) is equivalent in my mind to pulling the
hook out of his mouth while setting it.
Of course, YMMV

I count it as landed if it gets within rod-length. Otherwise, my stats
REALLY stink! ;-)
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TL,
Tim
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