Sealing up a boat question

Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of that I
can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I thought
about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I want to
spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old enough, it
wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:50:46 GMT, "Doug"
sent into the ether:

Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of that I
can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I thought
about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I want to
spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old enough, it
wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

Doug,
I too have an old aluminum boat. I call it the Sponge. Take
everything out of the boat and vacumn it clean and wash it if
necessary. When it's dry leave it attached to the trailer and have
someone back it into the water with you in it and use a marker to mark
all the places water is coming in. Let it dry and then wire brush the
marked spots. I used a small wire wheel, but be careful not to take
more than the surface crud off. Clean it up with alcohol and then
apply Durabond Alumaweld epoxy. If the boat has ribs you probably
will still have leaks under them. For cuts/tears apply the same
process inside and outside of the hull. If there are still too many
leaks buy a bilge pump and set it up on the floor of the boat at the
rear and run a hose over the transom.

And last but not least, keep your eyes open for a better boat :}
Did you hear that Steve??? Hint hint.

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My boat is an old Starcraft 14 footer and I like using it on my lakes in the
area that have the 10hp limit. Man does it take in the water, I got a bilge
pump in it and have to kick it on about every hour and it'll dump about 7 or
8 gallons of water out. I have a deck in it so I don't really see it till I
get in the back and hit the bilge. I flipped it over and man, it's ugly.
The folks that had it before used everything from fiberglass to roofing tar
to who knows what and I'm looking for something just to brush over the whole
mess and be done with it. I'm wire wheeling off everything loose right now
and trying to get it down to bare metal again but this is taking forever.

That Rhino lining is sounding better and better as the day goes on! lol

Anyway, any other idea's for a brush or roll on type product would be
greatly appreciated!

Doug


"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:50:46 GMT, "Doug"
sent into the ether:

Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks
and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of
that I
can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I
thought
about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I want
to
spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old enough,
it
wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

Doug,
I too have an old aluminum boat. I call it the Sponge. Take
everything out of the boat and vacumn it clean and wash it if
necessary. When it's dry leave it attached to the trailer and have
someone back it into the water with you in it and use a marker to mark
all the places water is coming in. Let it dry and then wire brush the
marked spots. I used a small wire wheel, but be careful not to take
more than the surface crud off. Clean it up with alcohol and then
apply Durabond Alumaweld epoxy. If the boat has ribs you probably
will still have leaks under them. For cuts/tears apply the same
process inside and outside of the hull. If there are still too many
leaks buy a bilge pump and set it up on the floor of the boat at the
rear and run a hose over the transom.

And last but not least, keep your eyes open for a better boat :}
Did you hear that Steve??? Hint hint.

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Fish!!!

Maybe four or five coats of elastomeric roof coating???

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"Doug" wrote in message
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My boat is an old Starcraft 14 footer and I like using it on my lakes in
the
area that have the 10hp limit. Man does it take in the water, I got a
bilge
pump in it and have to kick it on about every hour and it'll dump about 7
or
8 gallons of water out. I have a deck in it so I don't really see it till
I
get in the back and hit the bilge. I flipped it over and man, it's ugly.
The folks that had it before used everything from fiberglass to roofing
tar
to who knows what and I'm looking for something just to brush over the
whole
mess and be done with it. I'm wire wheeling off everything loose right
now
and trying to get it down to bare metal again but this is taking forever.

That Rhino lining is sounding better and better as the day goes on! lol

Anyway, any other idea's for a brush or roll on type product would be
greatly appreciated!

Doug


"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:50:46 GMT, "Doug"
sent into the ether:

Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks
and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of
that I
can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I
thought
about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I want
to
spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old
enough,
it
wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

Doug,
I too have an old aluminum boat. I call it the Sponge. Take
everything out of the boat and vacumn it clean and wash it if
necessary. When it's dry leave it attached to the trailer and have
someone back it into the water with you in it and use a marker to mark
all the places water is coming in. Let it dry and then wire brush the
marked spots. I used a small wire wheel, but be careful not to take
more than the surface crud off. Clean it up with alcohol and then
apply Durabond Alumaweld epoxy. If the boat has ribs you probably
will still have leaks under them. For cuts/tears apply the same
process inside and outside of the hull. If there are still too many
leaks buy a bilge pump and set it up on the floor of the boat at the
rear and run a hose over the transom.

And last but not least, keep your eyes open for a better boat :}
Did you hear that Steve??? Hint hint.

Remove the x for e-mail reply
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www.SecretWeaponLures.com
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Fish!!!

"Doug" "Man does it take in the water, I got a bilge pump in it and have to
kick it on about every hour and it'll dump about 7 or 8 gallons of water
out. I have a deck in it so I don't really see it till I get in the back and
hit the bilge. I flipped it over and man, it's ugly."

Put an automatic switch on the bilge pump and you won't have to worry about
flipping it on every hour. I don't know if I would put a spray on bed liner
like Rhino liner on the outside of the boat. It will also add weight to the
boat that you may not won't.

Try putting the boat up on saw horses or blocks and adding just enough water
to fill the bottom of the floor. Lay underneath and look for where the
leaks are coming from. Mark the leaks with a marker. If the leaks are
coming from a rivet, you can try to change out the rivet with a stainless
steel bolt, washer and nut. Use a marine silicon sealer between the rivet
and the outside of the boat by filing the hole with sealant before inserting
the bolt and tightening down. If it is welded you can have the crack or
hole welded.

Sarge

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:50:11 GMT, "Doug"
sent into the ether:

My boat is an old Starcraft 14 footer and I like using it on my lakes in the
area that have the 10hp limit. Man does it take in the water, I got a bilge
pump in it and have to kick it on about every hour and it'll dump about 7 or
8 gallons of water out. I have a deck in it so I don't really see it till I
get in the back and hit the bilge. I flipped it over and man, it's ugly.
The folks that had it before used everything from fiberglass to roofing tar
to who knows what and I'm looking for something just to brush over the whole
mess and be done with it. I'm wire wheeling off everything loose right now
and trying to get it down to bare metal again but this is taking forever.

That Rhino lining is sounding better and better as the day goes on! lol

Anyway, any other idea's for a brush or roll on type product would be
greatly appreciated!

Doug
SNIP

Doug,
Rent or borrow a power washer and get as much of the hull clean as
possible. Paint remover may help. I would not bother getting a
coating because the hull is flexing and I don't think it wouuld hold
up. It may seem like a big job but cleaning the outside of the hull
up with the proper tools shouldn't take that much time. Cleaning and
putting epoxy over rivits and cuts should only take a day and a half.

Don't get caught up in getting the hull spotless unless you really
want a clean hull. It's not a high speed hull. I did mine in a day
and a half. I power washed all the loose coats of paint off the
outside, water tested for and marked leaks at a nearby lake, wire
wheeled them, cleaned them with alcohol, and expoxied them. Sunday
afternoon when the epoxy was hard I turned the hull over and wire
wheeled the cuts on the outside and epoxied them.

The cuts are still sealed after 10+ years and as far as I can tell so
are the rivits. Of course more rivits are leaking now and I really
should take the time to epoxy them but I would rather spend time
fishing. That's why I have a bilge pump. :}

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Doug this guy Dan

Has the idea I would do it his way but for one proviso I am an arc welder. I made the hulls for kids and a friend.

Richard G.





"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:50:46 GMT, "Doug"
sent into the ether:

Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of that I
can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I thought
about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I want to
spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old enough, it
wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

Doug,
I too have an old aluminum boat. I call it the Sponge. Take
everything out of the boat and vacumn it clean and wash it if
necessary. When it's dry leave it attached to the trailer and have
someone back it into the water with you in it and use a marker to mark
all the places water is coming in. Let it dry and then wire brush the
marked spots. I used a small wire wheel, but be careful not to take
more than the surface crud off. Clean it up with alcohol and then
apply Durabond Alumaweld epoxy. If the boat has ribs you probably
will still have leaks under them. For cuts/tears apply the same
process inside and outside of the hull. If there are still too many
leaks buy a bilge pump and set it up on the floor of the boat at the
rear and run a hose over the transom.

And last but not least, keep your eyes open for a better boat :}
Did you hear that Steve??? Hint hint.

Remove the x for e-mail reply
www.outdoorfrontiers.com
www.SecretWeaponLures.com
A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and Fish!!!

Hey guys!

Well, I ground the boat down to the rivets and bare metal once again just
like new almost. I've tested an area with the bed liner material and it
seems to bond fairly well. Before I put the coat over the whole thing, I
need to look to see if a primer might be necessary. If not, it will be full
steam ahead with this project using bed liner. After hours of research, and
for as many little leaks that I have, this seems to be a viable solution for
this boat. Hopefully one gallon will do the job for the coating, we'll see
how it goes!

I will keep you guys updated whether either good or bad outcome.... I
should snap some before and after pictures and post up if you guys think it
might help others or if your curious yourselves??

I do however really appreciate all the input from you guys... I usually
just kind of browse and sneak around in here and read the posts, and I enjoy
reading what everyone has to say on about every subject.

Thanks everyone and ya know, spawn is right around the corner!!

Doug


"Doug" wrote in message
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Hey guys,

I've got this old Aluminum boat and I'm trying to fix the small leaks and
cracks but their several. Is there a product that any of you know of that
I can just brush or roll on the bottom of the boat to seal it up? I
thought about having it Rhino Lined but that's a little more money than I
want to spend. They told me it would around 250 or so and the boats old
enough, it wouldn't be worth it I think.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Doug

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:15:44 GMT, "Doug P"
wrote:

I should snap some before and after pictures and post up if you guys think it
might help others or if your curious yourselves??

Yeah! I would be very interested in before-and-after photos.

Thanks, Doug....


Guy A
Ripley, TN

Sure thing! I've got the befores, and will wait to post them once the
afters are taken! It's ready for it's paintjob tomorrow, I'm rather curious
myself how this will work out. 2 days of prep and lets see if it pays!

Regards,

Doug


"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:15:44 GMT, "Doug P"
wrote:

I should snap some before and after pictures and post up if you guys
think it
might help others or if your curious yourselves??

Yeah! I would be very interested in before-and-after photos.

Thanks, Doug....


Guy A
Ripley, TN