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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:25:10 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Budweiser is the best selling beer in America. Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world.

By your logic Chef Boyardee is the best Italian food in America.
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Charlie Choc wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Budweiser is the best selling beer in America. Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world.

By your logic Chef Boyardee is the best Italian food in America.

I don't know about Chef Boyardee, isn't it canned food ?

I don't think anyone would compare canned food to fresh
but maybe Chef Boyardee *is* the best canned Italian food
in America. If its the best seller there must be a reason.
One reason could be that all Chef Boyardee eaters lack the
taste to recognize good canned Italian food, I mean that's
what Chuck and the beer snobs would have us believe about
Budweiser, but isn't it possible that it's good canned
Italian food ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Charlie Choc wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Budweiser is the best selling beer in America. Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world.

By your logic Chef Boyardee is the best Italian food in America.

I don't know about Chef Boyardee, isn't it canned food ?

I don't think anyone would compare canned food to fresh
but maybe Chef Boyardee *is* the best canned Italian food
in America. If its the best seller there must be a reason.
One reason could be that all Chef Boyardee eaters lack the
taste to recognize good canned Italian food, I mean that's
what Chuck and the beer snobs would have us believe about
Budweiser, but isn't it possible that it's good canned
Italian food ?

The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again, I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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"Tim J." wrote in message
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I don't think anyone would compare canned food to fresh
but maybe Chef Boyardee *is* the best canned Italian food
in America. If its the best seller there must be a reason.
One reason could be that all Chef Boyardee eaters lack the
taste to recognize good canned Italian food, I mean that's
what Chuck and the beer snobs would have us believe about
Budweiser, but isn't it possible that it's good canned
Italian food ?

The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again, I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we are
likely to witness.

Danl

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

While I enjoy reverse-snobbism as well as the next guy, your
seeming need to classify as a "beer snob" anyone who recognizes Bud
for what it is, says a lot more about you than you might realize.

Budweiser is the best selling beer in America.

Ah, so popularity is a reliable measure of how good something is?

Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world.

By whom?

But all those people and all those industry
experts are wrong because only the select few really recognize
Bud for what it is. And of course, you're one of those select
few.

Congratulations on your accomplishment.

Hey, it's easy enough to do (well, for me anyway). I don't fall for
ads with dogs and talking lizards and such, nor do I have a blind
devotion (bordering on fanaticism) for the beers I enjoy. On a hot day
I'll drink a Busch (yes, imagine that), on a cold day it's more likely
to be an ale or stout. (Just between you and me, I've even been known
to drink a Bud when nothing else is available.)

You know, this is all the more funny considering that you are a
self-proclaimed dry fly snob. How would you respond if I were to start
a thread saying that more baitcasting/spinning gear is sold in the U.S.
than flyfishing gear, or that all the experts agree that baitfishing is
the most effective way to catch fish?

This defensiveness on your part wrt your beloved Budweiser is hilarious.


Chuck Vance

Danl wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:
The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again, I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we are
likely to witness.

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

But here's my challenge to you, Mr. Flatulence In Every Glass
Fancy Shmancy Home Brewer, brew up your best pilsner and we'll
let a dozen random beer drinkers do a blind taste test with your
best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:06:10 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

While I enjoy reverse-snobbism as well as the next guy, your
seeming need to classify as a "beer snob" anyone who recognizes Bud
for what it is, says a lot more about you than you might realize.

Budweiser is the best selling beer in America.

Ah, so popularity is a reliable measure of how good something is?

Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world.

By whom?

But all those people and all those industry
experts are wrong because only the select few really recognize
Bud for what it is. And of course, you're one of those select
few.

Congratulations on your accomplishment.

Hey, it's easy enough to do (well, for me anyway). I don't fall for
ads with dogs and talking lizards and such, nor do I have a blind
devotion (bordering on fanaticism) for the beers I enjoy. On a hot day
I'll drink a Busch (yes, imagine that), on a cold day it's more likely
to be an ale or stout. (Just between you and me, I've even been known
to drink a Bud when nothing else is available.)

You know, this is all the more funny considering that you are a
self-proclaimed dry fly snob. How would you respond if I were to start
a thread saying that more baitcasting/spinning gear is sold in the U.S.
than flyfishing gear, or that all the experts agree that baitfishing is
the most effective way to catch fish?

I was just going to point out the same thing...of course, I suspect that
40 isn't nearly as devoted to Bud as he is starting ****, and also of
course, it's pretty easy to defend Bud as the "best of its style" since
the Busch family long ago cornered the Clydesdale market...

wrote:


I was just going to point out the same thing...of course, I suspect that
40 isn't nearly as devoted to Bud as he is starting ****, and also of
course, it's pretty easy to defend Bud as the "best of its style" since
the Busch family long ago cornered the Clydesdale market...

My maternal grandfather was Henry Adolf Wecker, a child of
German immigrants who settled near Dupo, Illinois just
across the river from St. Louis, Missouri. There were a
whole lot of Weckers and Steppigs, my relations, who worked
at Anheuser-Busch and to a man they had nothing but respect
and admiration for the Busch family. Many of them worked at
the brewery during Prohibition and not one single person was
ever laid off. The Busch family is a paragon of civic
responsibility in the St. Louis area, both in visible ways
and quietly behind the scenes. Gussie Busch, who owned the
St. Louis Cardinals for much of my lifetime until his death
was revered in St. Louis. When the full 8 horse rig marches
through the wagon gate in right field to the strains of
"Here Comes the King" on the stadium organ the roar that
rises from the banks of the Mississippi isn't *just* for a
beer. But it's a damn good beer.

Now the Busch kids aren't Gussie, I suspect that some of
them are even Republicans, and the brewery doesn't own the
ball club anymore, but there's a loyalty to Anheuser-Busch
in my family and I drink their beer and did I say, it's
damn good beer.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Gussie Busch, who owned the
St. Louis Cardinals for much of my lifetime until his death
was revered in St. Louis.

Even if he did trade Steve Carlton and fire Harry Caray, there's always
the Lou Brock deal. g

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

[snip of family history Busch family]

Now the Busch kids aren't Gussie, I suspect that some of
them are even Republicans, and the brewery doesn't own the
ball club anymore, but there's a loyalty to Anheuser-Busch
in my family and I drink their beer and did I say, it's
damn good beer.

In your self-admitted ever-so-biased opinion.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the rest of the story. I totally
understand your feelings towards Bud now, but I think I'll stick to
judging by taste rather than brand loyalty.


Chuck Vance (who has certainly gained an interesting perspective
on how you make your decisions as a consumer)