Salmon Flies at the Western Clave

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:ONIte.26089$%Z2.25062@lakeread08...
just spoke with kelly at slide inn...he says there is some doubt whether
the salmon fly will even show this year because of hard winds.
apparently lots of wind blows the hatch away from the water.

btw, dan'l, i've taken care of confirming room switches...wayno's in
your slot (now in #5) for july 8-14...but you'll need to confirm asadi's
days when you get there. joe and i are in #7 for july 6-20.

jeff

Hmmm....how come I'm doing that? Or was that directed to someone else?



Asadi??? What's the scoop?


Danl

Danl wrote:

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:ONIte.26089$%Z2.25062@lakeread08...

just spoke with kelly at slide inn...he says there is some doubt whether
the salmon fly will even show this year because of hard winds.
apparently lots of wind blows the hatch away from the water.

btw, dan'l, i've taken care of confirming room switches...wayno's in
your slot (now in #5) for july 8-14...but you'll need to confirm asadi's
days when you get there. joe and i are in #7 for july 6-20.

jeff


Hmmm....how come I'm doing that? Or was that directed to someone else?



Asadi??? What's the scoop?


Danl




kelly still has you booked for 8-17...he didn't know about your
sublet(s). i took care of informing him about wayno and ree, but wasn't
sure about the deal with asadi and it was getting weird. if you're still
confused, e-mail me with confusing questions. g

jeff

jeff

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:43:32 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:


"Allen Epps" wrote in message
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I'm hopeing Harry has it right as I've been a big'ol slug and not tied
much

http://tinyurl.com/dxwzl

Of course I'll also have our stunted Maryland version in the box as well.

Allen

Well, Harry outta know a lot better than I do, but #8 seems way too small.
Hmmm....Harry does fish that area a lot......

Danl
Doubting Thomas got nuthin in me!


It's my understanding that most bugs are a bit late this season, wet
spring and all. With that said, chasing the Salmon fly hatch is not my
idea of fun. I no longer run about trying to find the hatch. It's
been my experience that the words ..."You should have been here
yesterday" came from this emergence. Don't get me wrong, when the
fish are on these things it's mayhem, but I have fished this section
of the Madison for over twenty years and have "hit it" twice and then
for only a few hours. I'd have some patterns for the hatch anyway but
I really don't think one needs to chase after it. If you are on the
water and the flies are coming off, so much the better. Fish still eat
other bugs :-)
I would not be without a few of the patterns for both the Golden and
the Salmon or Willow Fly. In general, the Golden's appear after the
Giant Stones.
If you fish the Madison "high up", Windy Point to Hebgan the hatch is
weak at best. They are around, but not in the mystic numbers one reads
about. Floating the mid section of the river is the best avenue to
encountering these bugs, and yes, 4x is not a bad idea maybe three if
the wind is blowing more than usual.


Here are a few patterns;

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1128

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1037

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1098

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=h1023

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1061

the last one warren says is his pick... at this time I'm out them
but I should have a few tommorow

HM

P.S. when you fish these fllies, both dries and nymphs, wear eye
protection...they are big and heavy and move all over in the wind.

Thanks for posting, Harry! I'll revisit your site in a couple of days.

Danl


wrote in message
...

It's my understanding that most bugs are a bit late this season, wet
spring and all. With that said, chasing the Salmon fly hatch is not my
idea of fun. I no longer run about trying to find the hatch. It's
been my experience that the words ..."You should have been here
yesterday" came from this emergence. Don't get me wrong, when the
fish are on these things it's mayhem, but I have fished this section
of the Madison for over twenty years and have "hit it" twice and then
for only a few hours. I'd have some patterns for the hatch anyway but
I really don't think one needs to chase after it. If you are on the
water and the flies are coming off, so much the better. Fish still eat
other bugs :-)
I would not be without a few of the patterns for both the Golden and
the Salmon or Willow Fly. In general, the Golden's appear after the
Giant Stones.
If you fish the Madison "high up", Windy Point to Hebgan the hatch is
weak at best. They are around, but not in the mystic numbers one reads
about. Floating the mid section of the river is the best avenue to
encountering these bugs, and yes, 4x is not a bad idea maybe three if
the wind is blowing more than usual.


Here are a few patterns;

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1128

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1037

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1098

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=h1023

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=D1061

the last one warren says is his pick... at this time I'm out them
but I should have a few tommorow

HM

P.S. when you fish these fllies, both dries and nymphs, wear eye
protection...they are big and heavy and move all over in the wind.

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:SdKte.26103$%Z2.18672@lakeread08...
kelly still has you booked for 8-17...he didn't know about your
sublet(s). i took care of informing him about wayno and ree, but wasn't
sure about the deal with asadi and it was getting weird. if you're still
confused, e-mail me with confusing questions. g

jeff


Well, Durn! Kelly's wife made a note of it and sent me a receipt noting
same. This will not end in happiness, I fear.

Danl

wrote:

P.S. when you fish these fllies, both dries and nymphs, wear eye
protection...they are big and heavy and move all over in the wind.

It also helps to twitch them (the dries) around on the surface. Watch
the naturals -- they're twitching like crazy.

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:48:18 GMT, rw
wrote:

wrote:

P.S. when you fish these fllies, both dries and nymphs, wear eye
protection...they are big and heavy and move all over in the wind.

It also helps to twitch them (the dries) around on the surface. Watch
the naturals -- they're twitching like crazy.


good point rw... this is one of the few times outside of hoppers that
a delicate presentation is not required in fact a resounding "plop"
is preferred and the adults do skitter all over the surface. If they
are on, you will see some huge fish and I mean 6 to 9+ pound browns.
In the Madison current this is equal to a chrome Steelhead in the 10#
plus range in less "heavy" water... 4x will seem thread like :-)

Danl wrote:
Last year, we caught just the tail-end of the salmon fly hatch at the
western clave. AIR, IIRC, AFAIK, and IYCFTOTKMY, the fish weren't interested
in much else when the big bugs were on the water. Luckily for me, Willi had
tied up some monstrous, sparrow-sized flies to match the naturals. If you're
reading, Willi, and you don't mind, you might post the recipe on ROFFT.
Failing that, and supposing the salmon flies are there this year, what are
the recommended flies for these bugs?

Danl




I thought I posted this earlier, but I guess not.....


I talked to Warren the other night and he's pretty sure we'll hit it
better this year. The Madison is still raging and the Salmonflies are late.

Here's the basic recipe.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...51500fotw.html



I tie it alittle different.

I color it at step 8
I use a thinner foam for the wing. I use some very thin foam that was
wrapped around a stereo receiver I bought. I used heavier foam last
year and it twisted alot while casting, I think the thinner foam will
work better.
I use different thinner rubber strand for more action.

Pix are up on ABPF.

Willi

Danl wrote:
"Willi" wrote in message
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The Salmonflies are HUGE. They make the big Eastern Mayflies look like
midges. They look like little birds skimming across the water when
they're swimming toward shore.

Obviously they bring big fish to the surface. Hopefully we'll get at
least part of the hatch.


"We"? Hopefully that means you've decided to come on up for at least part of
the clave.

Danl

And bring some of those big salmon fly patterns......





Think it will probably happen. I was hoping to hitch a ride with Bruce
but he's coming up through Salt Lake.

I tied up about a dozen.

Willi

Willi wrote:

I tied up about a dozen.

Another dozen might be a good idea. Better yet, bring the materials. Or
at least tell us which stereo receiver you bought. :-)

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