Ireland

Hi
I am being treated to a trip to Ireland at the end of Aug / early Sept. All
I know is that I am flying into Shannon for trout fishing on a Lough. That's
all I am being told. If anyone could suggest some general fly patterns to
use, along with sizes, that would be very helpful.
Thanks in advance
Chris

In article , Roddytoo
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Hi
I am being treated to a trip to Ireland at the end of Aug / early Sept. All
I know is that I am flying into Shannon for trout fishing on a Lough. That's
all I am being told. If anyone could suggest some general fly patterns to
use, along with sizes, that would be very helpful.
Thanks in advance
Chris


Hi Chris,

I was chatting to a mate only yesterday who had recently returned from a
disastrous trip to Ireland . He was unable to find any salmon or sea
trout fishing anywhere.

If you find some then good luck, but be warned, Salmon Fishing and sea
trout fishing is very scarce if not non existent.

Regards,
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

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In article , Roddytoo
writes
Hi
I am being treated to a trip to Ireland at the end of Aug / early Sept. All
I know is that I am flying into Shannon for trout fishing on a Lough. That's
all I am being told. If anyone could suggest some general fly patterns to
use, along with sizes, that would be very helpful.

Take a few large sedges, you might catch the end of the 'peters.

Is this lough style or bank?

If lough style then all the usual small brown things but add a few extremes
- bumbles for the droppers and something to run deep with in case it's
bright and calm (soldier palmer has worked for me.) If bank then a few
klinkhammer style flies and in-the-surface-film buzzers are worth having.

I was chatting to a mate only yesterday who had recently returned from a
disastrous trip to Ireland . He was unable to find any salmon or sea
trout fishing anywhere.

That's hard to believe, though the weather dictates at this time of year.
The Irish are so used to first class fishing that they tend to give up long
before most of us would ...but then they also have those first class pubs...

If you find some then good luck, but be warned, Salmon Fishing and sea
trout fishing is very scarce if not non existent.

For a value of 'non existent' that I for one could live with ;-)

Have fun. Cheerio,

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In article , Derek.Moody
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I was chatting to a mate only yesterday who had recently returned from a
disastrous trip to Ireland . He was unable to find any salmon or sea
trout fishing anywhere.

That's hard to believe, though the weather dictates at this time of year.
The Irish are so used to first class fishing that they tend to give up long
before most of us would ...but then they also have those first class pubs...

I didn't make it up Derek.

No problem with trout fishing though AFAIK

Phil Jones posted a link the other day which I think said there are no
salmon in Ireland. Check the postings for this.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , Derek.Moody
writes

I was chatting to a mate only yesterday who had recently returned from a
disastrous trip to Ireland . He was unable to find any salmon or sea
trout fishing anywhere.

That's hard to believe, though the weather dictates at this time of year.
The Irish are so used to first class fishing that they tend to give up long
before most of us would ...but then they also have those first class pubs...

If you find some then good luck, but be warned, Salmon Fishing and sea
trout fishing is very scarce if not non existent.

Hi Derek

Here is the link I mentioned in my earlier posting:

No salmon in Ireland...

http://www.anglingnews.net/rep_detail.asp?ID=3774
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , W. D. Grey
wrote:
In article , Derek.Moody
writes

I was chatting to a mate only yesterday who had recently returned from a
disastrous trip to Ireland . He was unable to find any salmon or sea
trout fishing anywhere.

That's hard to believe, though the weather dictates at this time of year.

Here is the link I mentioned in my earlier posting:

No salmon in Ireland...

http://www.anglingnews.net/rep_detail.asp?ID=3774

It's all relative ;-)

From the same site:

http://www.anglingnews.net/rep_detail.asp?ID=3773
(Galway wierpool, 16 salmon for last week)

Or

http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.net/
(Blackwater Lodge, not the best place to fish the Blackwater but -
'2005 Season, Catch so far - 245 Salmon to Aug 6'
of which 14 on July 29th )

and

http://www.northwestfisheries.ie/news.htm
( Week ending 7th August:
With the Moy at its lowest level since 1995, angling proved very difficult
over the past week. Of the 211 salmon reported for the week, 114 were
caught on the Moy Fishery tidal beats where small size 14 flies were the
order of the day. This weeks returns bring the total catch this year on
the Moy system to 5,115 salmon, 1,202 of which were taken on the Moy
Fishery and the balance of 3,913 salmon were caught on the upstream
fisheries including 259 from Loughs Conn & Cullin.)



Want some pictures?

http://www.screebehouse.ie/page.asp?menu=81&page=178

http://www.loughcurrane.com/springpics/



All from a hasty look, a proper search would show plenty more. These are
mostly the commercial waters who want the publicity btw, most returns will
not be in 'til the end of theseason.


It may be poor -for Ireland- but it's a long way from no fish.

Cheerio,

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In article , Derek.Moody
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It may be poor -for Ireland- but it's a long way from no fish.

Granted you've looked at the report in more detail than I, but a spoken
report form a pal with recent bad experience in trying to find salmon
and sea trout fishing is very convincing.

If anyone wants to get in some serious game fishing then good luck - I
hope you do prove me wrong.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , W. D. Grey
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In article , Derek.Moody
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It may be poor -for Ireland- but it's a long way from no fish.

Granted you've looked at the report in more detail than I, but a spoken
report form a pal with recent bad experience in trying to find salmon
and sea trout fishing is very convincing.

If anyone wants to get in some serious game fishing then good luck - I
hope you do prove me wrong.

He may have been in one of those midland areas full of bream, rudd and pike
waters but short on trout and salmon. There are very few stocked rainbow
waters btw, except in parts of the SW. In general for brownies, except in
areas close to big towns; if you see a nice piece of water just go fish it.
If there is any problem (exceedingly rare) then you can buy a ticket
retrospectively or merely stop fishing and apologise.

If you do see an obvious riparian owner then go and ask permission, I have
never known it be refused. In my experience they are delighted by the
novelty of being asked.

Salmon, sea trout and where stocked, rainbows do normally require advance
tickets and are usually well keepered.

Cheerio,

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In article , Derek.Moody
writes
If anyone wants to get in some serious game fishing then good luck - I
hope you do prove me wrong.

He may have been in one of those midland areas full of bream, rudd and pike
waters but short on trout and salmon. There are very few stocked rainbow
waters btw, except in parts of the SW. In general for brownies, except in
areas close to big towns; if you see a nice piece of water just go fish it.
If there is any problem (exceedingly rare) then you can buy a ticket
retrospectively or merely stop fishing and apologise.

Derek,

My pal is an experienced fisherman and was in the Killarney region for
at least some of the time.

I sounds as if you don't want to believe me :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , W. D. Grey
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My pal is an experienced fisherman and was in the Killarney region for
at least some of the time.

OK, about the least fishy area of Ireland though there are a couple of
lovely waters (but absolutely dependant on spates except on the beats below
the lough which are rather sewn up.) The loughs will have been dour in heat
too though they should have produced to sedges in late dusk. -IF- you are
up for a serious hike there are some interesting hill loughs nearby and a
few very short spate streams that will provide the occasional fish.

Having gone that far (and having crossed so many fine waters to get there) a
game angler should have carried on to Waterville*/Currane where they -have -
been catching.

I sounds as if you don't want to believe me :-)

Let's just say I'd hate for you to be right...

Cheerio,

*Ask for a ghillie called O'Sullivan in the Lobster Bar who blagged some
sal****er flies from me then wasted them catching salmon...

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