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Old November 14th, 2005, 02:35 AM
big fish 2005
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I need a good baitcasting reel or cranking, I just startd using
crankbaits this summer, I had some god luck with a 6.3.1 when sing deep
divers 10-12 ft.

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Old November 14th, 2005, 03:55 AM
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Shimano Scorpion, I love them

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"big fish 2005" wrote in message
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I need a good baitcasting reel or cranking, I just startd using
crankbaits this summer, I had some god luck with a 6.3.1 when sing deep
divers 10-12 ft.



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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:44 PM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"SHRED" wrote in message
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big fish 2005 wrote:
I need a good baitcasting reel or cranking, I just startd using
crankbaits this summer, I had some god luck with a 6.3.1 when sing deep
divers 10-12 ft.


Shimano Curado 200 or 100.

Shimano Scorpion 1000 (Japan), I have 2, they are nice but remember, USA
Shimano does not service them.


I'll second the vote for Curados. If you're looking to use a reel primarily
for crankbaits, you might want to consider the 3.8:1 retrieve ratio model.
It'll be easier to crank big lipped baits down deep.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 01:45 PM
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big fish 2005 wrote:
I need a good baitcasting reel or cranking, I just startd using
crankbaits this summer, I had some god luck with a 6.3.1 when sing deep
divers 10-12 ft.


Shimano Curado 200 or 100.

Shimano Scorpion 1000 (Japan), I have 2, they are nice but remember, USA
Shimano does not service them.

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Old November 14th, 2005, 02:54 PM
Bob La Londe
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"SHRED" wrote in message
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big fish 2005 wrote:
I need a good baitcasting reel or cranking, I just startd using
crankbaits this summer, I had some god luck with a 6.3.1 when sing deep
divers 10-12 ft.


Shimano Curado 200 or 100.

Shimano Scorpion 1000 (Japan), I have 2, they are nice but remember, USA
Shimano does not service them.

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Harold over at Sportmen's Hide-A-Way told me the old Curado has been
discontinued and newer model has been introduced.

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Old November 14th, 2005, 03:11 PM
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Harold over at Sportmen's Hide-A-Way told me the old Curado has been
discontinued and newer model has been introduced.



http://fish.shimano.com/catalog/fish...=1131980999668

Looks like the new model is followed by a "D"



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Old November 14th, 2005, 06:15 PM
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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you might want to consider the 3.8:1 retrieve ratio model.
It'll be easier to crank big lipped baits down deep.


How so Steve? Seems like it would be alot of work with a slow-retrieve
reel...

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Old November 14th, 2005, 07:53 PM
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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you might want to consider the 3.8:1 retrieve ratio model.
It'll be easier to crank big lipped baits down deep.


How so Steve? Seems like it would be alot of work with a slow-retrieve
reel..


Lower gear ratio equals more cranking power. It requires more effort using
a high speed reel to retrieve big lipped crankbaits.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 03:20 AM
Joe Haubenreich
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Steve is right... think of the ratio as the gears on a bicycle. Low gears
make easy work of slopes, but they'll wear you out on level ground or going
down hills.

Now consider your baits... some slip through the water with little
resistance, while others burrow along, creating a lot of resistance.

A low-gear ratio reel keeps you fresh after a hundred or so retrieves of a
deep-diving crankbait, but if you're using a bait intended to be retrieved
quickly, like a lipless crankbait, you'll wear yourself out winding it. Sort
of like peddling in low gear on level ground or a downward slope.

A high-speed reel makes shorter work of taking up slack, or retrieving line
when extracting a bass quickly from the weeds, but once it's down in the
salad, a low-speed reel helps you winch the bass with it's burden back up.

Most anglers know this, of course.... but what is news to some is the effect
of retrieve speed on the performance of baits.

I'm willing to be disproved on this point, but my observation is that
lipped, diving crankbaits usually perform better at slow speeds... They dive
at a steeper angle, achieving maximum depth more quickly. We've heard advice
to reel quickly at first to "git 'er down there," but when I reel slowly at
first, the bait's angle makes it dig downward rather than back toward me at
a flatter angle. If I'm fishing 12-foot depths, the lure strikes the bottom
in just a few cranks, but when I reel quickly, the lure takes a little
longer to achieve that depth. It does take longer to get the lure back to
the boat, but that's sort of the point, isn't it? To keep the bait in the
strike zone longer?

Therefore, for deep-divers, a slow-speed retrieve reel improves the bait's
performance as well as reducing angler fatigue.

Joe
"go-bassn" wrote in message
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How so Steve? Seems like it would be alot of work with a slow-retrieve
reel...

Warren



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Old November 15th, 2005, 03:50 AM
John Kerr
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Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 9:20pm From:
swljoe-at-secretweaponlures.com (Joe*Haubenreich)
Steve is right... think of the ratio as the gears on a bicycle. Low
gears make easy work of slopes, but they'll wear you out on level ground
or going down hills.
Now consider your baits... some slip through the water with little
resistance, while others burrow along, creating a lot of resistance.
A low-gear ratio reel keeps you fresh after a hundred or so retrieves of
a deep-diving crankbait, but if you're using a bait intended to be
retrieved quickly, like a lipless crankbait, you'll wear yourself out
winding it. Sort of like peddling in low gear on level ground or a
downward slope.
A high-speed reel makes shorter work of taking up slack, or retrieving
line when extracting a bass quickly from the weeds, but once it's down
in the salad, a low-speed reel helps you winch the bass with it's burden
back up.
Most anglers know this, of course.... but what is news to some is the
effect of retrieve speed on the performance of baits.
I'm willing to be disproved on this point, but my observation is that
lipped, diving crankbaits usually perform better at slow speeds... They
dive at a steeper angle, achieving maximum depth more quickly. We've
heard advice to reel quickly at first to "git 'er down there," but when
I reel slowly at first, the bait's angle makes it dig downward rather
than back toward me at a flatter angle. If I'm fishing 12-foot depths,
the lure strikes the bottom in just a few cranks, but when I reel
quickly, the lure takes a little longer to achieve that depth. It does
take longer to get the lure back to the boat, but that's sort of the
point, isn't it? To keep the bait in the strike zone longer?
Therefore, for deep-divers, a slow-speed retrieve reel improves the
bait's performance as well as reducing angler fatigue.
Joe
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
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How so Steve? Seems like it would be alot of work with a slow-retrieve
reel...
Warren
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Angle of incidence, and angle of attack....stall the bait out, and you
will get a deeper retrieve with a slower, or moderate retrieve than a
faster retrieve......at least that's how it works in aviation. But then
what do I know, I don't use many crank baits.

JK

 




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