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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
there are no escapees. If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you shoot them yourself or the "guide" does. Maybe for some places, but not all. |
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rw typed:
Tim J. wrote: You're, of course, assuming that Bush IS a conservative, which he has proven he's not. Bingo. The problem is that Rove, Bush's brain, has so far succeeded in selling the notion that you are by definition a conservative if and only if you support Bush. Can I assume that you, as a conservative, no longer approve of Bush? You can assume whatever you wish. There are many matters on which Mr. Bush and I disagree. However, given the same two choices again, and having lived in the state of Mass. with Mr. Kerry for several years, I'd vote the same way again. I respect true conservative principles, Yeah, riiiiiiigggghhhht. -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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![]() riverman wrote: I am absolutely astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God, the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long... What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we (liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell in this case is there to get away with? We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them? |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:56:45 GMT, rw
wrote: Wayne Knight wrote: William Claspy wrote: (hmmm..... hey Wayne, you still planning on bird hunting during the Yoop clave this fall? Just want to know if I should pack the body armor :-) What's a little spraying with bird shot? You can go back to work and tell everyone how bad the mosquitos were. Yeah, he can do that after he gets out of intensive care. I believe he went to intensive care because of his age, not the wounds. I was sprayed with birdshot (abouot 200 yards away) when I was a kid. I had a split second to duck my head when I heard the shot hitting the tobacco barn. I had several shot hit my hat, and two his my hand. Left a welt - didn't even break the skin. There'll be lots of jokes, as there should be, sorta like the stain on the blue dress dontchaknow. d;o) |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:08:36 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: rw typed: Tim J. wrote: You're, of course, assuming that Bush IS a conservative, which he has proven he's not. Bingo. The problem is that Rove, Bush's brain, has so far succeeded in selling the notion that you are by definition a conservative if and only if you support Bush. Can I assume that you, as a conservative, no longer approve of Bush? You can assume whatever you wish. There are many matters on which Mr. Bush and I disagree. However, given the same two choices again, and having lived in the state of Mass. with Mr. Kerry for several years, I'd vote the same way again. I respect true conservative principles, Yeah, riiiiiiigggghhhht. Couldn't have said it better, Tim. Scarey Kerry shouldn't be in public office PERIOD. And Barnard respects only those people who support HIS idealogy. |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
I believe he went to intensive care because of his age, not the wounds. I was sprayed with birdshot (abouot 200 yards away) when I was a kid. I had a split second to duck my head when I heard the shot hitting the tobacco barn. I had several shot hit my hat, and two his my hand. Left a welt - didn't even break the skin. "Hospital officials on Monday continued to offer few details on the victim's condition, but said he was "very stable" and that pellets were possibly still being removed. Sally Whittington told The Dallas Morning News her father was being observed because of swelling from some of the welts on his neck. His face "looks like chicken pox, kind of," she said. "A hospital spokesman said Whittington was in the intensive care unit because his condition warranted it, but he didn't elaborate. Whittington sent word that he would have no comment on the incident out of respect for Cheney." As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. Jesus, you went ballistic when Joe MacIntosh touched your shirt. What would you do if he shot you in the face? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Scott Seidman wrote:
We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first glance to be gluttony. While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti- wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of sportsmanlike should I follow? There's a similar continuum with respect to fishing. Below is that continuum as I see it. (probably left some out and not so sure about the order of some of the steps but there's enough to get the idea) Unfortunately, most of our fishing is pretty far down that list. "Throwing stones" at hunters seems kind of hypocritical. Native fish in native "natural" environments Self sustaining native fish re-introduced into native "natural" environments Self sustaining non native fish in "natural" environments Stocked fingerling native fish into native "natural" environments Stocked catchable native fish in native "natural" environments Stocked non native fingerlings in "natural" environment Stocked non native catchable fishes in "natural" environment Stocked non native fingerlings in man made environments Stocked catchable non native fishes in man made environments Stocked non native fishes in man made environments with introduced food ie mysis shrimp, introduced minnow base Stocked catchable non native fishes in "natural" environments with supplemental man made food Stocked catchable non native fishes in man made environments with supplemental feedings of man made food Stocked genetically manipulated fishes (with the above permutations) Willi |
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hahahhahaha
video clips of todays White House press conference on the Cheney accident: http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...tQuestions.asx http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...utShooting.asx http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...TakeSoLong.asx http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...neyShooter.asx |
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![]() "Wayne Knight" wrote in message ups.com... riverman wrote: I am absolutely astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God, the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long... What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we (liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell in this case is there to get away with? We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them? The shooting.....as appalling as something like that always is......was, presumably an accident. Probably involves some level of stupidity or carelessness....negligence....whatever. I agree that folks are definitely going overboard about that. But the secrecy....and the spin....."spray".....for God's sake? A hypothetical situation: Let us assume that things had gone the other way around.......that Mr. Whittington had shot Mr. Cheney......and didn't bother to tell anyone for a day or so....... Wolfgang |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... ...Barnard respects only those people who support HIS idealogy. Unlike you own inclusive self, huh? Wolfgang who thinks EVERY day should be "let's let a political thread drag me out of the closet" day. ![]() |
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