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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:


there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.


Maybe for some places, but not all.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw typed:
Tim J. wrote:

You're, of course, assuming that Bush IS a conservative, which he
has proven he's not.


Bingo.

The problem is that Rove, Bush's brain, has so far succeeded in
selling the notion that you are by definition a conservative if and
only if you support Bush. Can I assume that you, as a conservative,
no longer approve of Bush?


You can assume whatever you wish. There are many matters on which Mr. Bush
and I disagree. However, given the same two choices again, and having lived
in the state of Mass. with Mr. Kerry for several years, I'd vote the same
way again.

I respect true conservative principles,


Yeah, riiiiiiigggghhhht.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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riverman wrote:

I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...


What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we
(liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this
that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough
negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he
shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell
in this case is there to get away with?

We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we
can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them?

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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:56:45 GMT, rw
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:
William Claspy wrote:


(hmmm..... hey Wayne, you still planning on bird hunting during the Yoop
clave this fall? Just want to know if I should pack the body armor :-)



What's a little spraying with bird shot? You can go back to work and
tell everyone how bad the mosquitos were.


Yeah, he can do that after he gets out of intensive care.


I believe he went to intensive care because of his age, not the
wounds. I was sprayed with birdshot (abouot 200 yards away) when I
was a kid. I had a split second to duck my head when I heard the shot
hitting the tobacco barn. I had several shot hit my hat, and two his
my hand. Left a welt - didn't even break the skin.

There'll be lots of jokes, as there should be, sorta like the stain on
the blue dress dontchaknow. d;o)





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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:08:36 -0500, "Tim J."
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rw typed:
Tim J. wrote:

You're, of course, assuming that Bush IS a conservative, which he
has proven he's not.


Bingo.

The problem is that Rove, Bush's brain, has so far succeeded in
selling the notion that you are by definition a conservative if and
only if you support Bush. Can I assume that you, as a conservative,
no longer approve of Bush?


You can assume whatever you wish. There are many matters on which Mr. Bush
and I disagree. However, given the same two choices again, and having lived
in the state of Mass. with Mr. Kerry for several years, I'd vote the same
way again.

I respect true conservative principles,


Yeah, riiiiiiigggghhhht.


Couldn't have said it better, Tim. Scarey Kerry shouldn't be in
public office PERIOD.

And Barnard respects only those people who support HIS idealogy.


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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Dave LaCourse wrote:

I believe he went to intensive care because of his age, not the
wounds. I was sprayed with birdshot (abouot 200 yards away) when I
was a kid. I had a split second to duck my head when I heard the shot
hitting the tobacco barn. I had several shot hit my hat, and two his
my hand. Left a welt - didn't even break the skin.


"Hospital officials on Monday continued to offer few details on the
victim's condition, but said he was "very stable" and that pellets were
possibly still being removed. Sally Whittington told The Dallas Morning
News her father was being observed because of swelling from some of the
welts on his neck. His face "looks like chicken pox, kind of," she said.

"A hospital spokesman said Whittington was in the intensive care unit
because his condition warranted it, but he didn't elaborate. Whittington
sent word that he would have no comment on the incident out of respect
for Cheney."

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

Jesus, you went ballistic when Joe MacIntosh touched your shirt. What
would you do if he shot you in the face?

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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Scott Seidman wrote:
We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game
enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that
means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the
birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with
the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a
feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first
glance to be gluttony.

While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't
do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are
some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are
catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish
in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti-
wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are
environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of
sportsmanlike should I follow?



There's a similar continuum with respect to fishing. Below is that
continuum as I see it. (probably left some out and not so sure about the
order of some of the steps but there's enough to get the idea)
Unfortunately, most of our fishing is pretty far down that list.
"Throwing stones" at hunters seems kind of hypocritical.

Native fish in native "natural" environments

Self sustaining native fish re-introduced into native "natural" environments

Self sustaining non native fish in "natural" environments

Stocked fingerling native fish into native "natural" environments

Stocked catchable native fish in native "natural" environments

Stocked non native fingerlings in "natural" environment

Stocked non native catchable fishes in "natural" environment

Stocked non native fingerlings in man made environments

Stocked catchable non native fishes in man made environments

Stocked non native fishes in man made environments with introduced food
ie mysis shrimp, introduced minnow base

Stocked catchable non native fishes in "natural" environments with
supplemental man made food

Stocked catchable non native fishes in man made environments with
supplemental feedings of man made food

Stocked genetically manipulated fishes (with the above permutations)

Willi

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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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hahahhahaha


video clips of todays White House press conference on the Cheney
accident:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...tQuestions.asx

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...utShooting.asx

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...TakeSoLong.asx

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/2...neyShooter.asx

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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:14 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do
whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face.
God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...


What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we
(liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this
that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough
negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he
shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell
in this case is there to get away with?

We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we
can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them?


The shooting.....as appalling as something like that always is......was,
presumably an accident. Probably involves some level of stupidity or
carelessness....negligence....whatever. I agree that folks are definitely
going overboard about that.

But the secrecy....and the spin....."spray".....for God's sake?

A hypothetical situation:

Let us assume that things had gone the other way around.......that Mr.
Whittington had shot Mr. Cheney......and didn't bother to tell anyone for a
day or so.......

Wolfgang


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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:20 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
...Barnard respects only those people who support HIS idealogy.


Unlike you own inclusive self, huh?

Wolfgang
who thinks EVERY day should be "let's let a political thread drag me out of
the closet" day.


 




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