Winner Chameleon

RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...



Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.



It wasn't in as good a shape as that one looks though. But still -- 6
grand is way out of whack.

RichZ wrote:
RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...



Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.



It wasn't in as good a shape as that one looks though. But still -- 6
grand is way out of whack.

I would have maybe gave him 4500 if the Transom was clean... It was a
beautifull boat..

The dealer told me it was just stress cracks and that 90% of all used
boats have them.. I dont buy it..

Jeffrae wrote:
RichZ wrote:
RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...



Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.



It wasn't in as good a shape as that one looks though. But still -- 6
grand is way out of whack.

I would have maybe gave him 4500 if the Transom was clean... It was a
beautifull boat..

The dealer told me it was just stress cracks and that 90% of all used
boats have them.. I dont buy it..

I see Winners in Other states going for 5k - 6.5k.. These dealers are
nutts..

Maybe I need to lose my Winner Obsession.. I just remember my Parents
Chameleon was a great boat.

Jeffrae wrote:
RichZ wrote:
RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...



Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.



It wasn't in as good a shape as that one looks though. But still -- 6
grand is way out of whack.

I would have maybe gave him 4500 if the Transom was clean... It was a
beautifull boat..

The dealer told me it was just stress cracks and that 90% of all used
boats have them.. I dont buy it..

I see Winners in Other states going for 5k - 6.5k.. These dealers are
nutts..

Maybe I need to lose my Winner Obsession.. I just remember my Parents
Chameleon was a great boat.

Jeffrae wrote:
RichZ wrote:
RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...



Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.



It wasn't in as good a shape as that one looks though. But still -- 6
grand is way out of whack.

I would have maybe gave him 4500 if the Transom was clean... It was a
beautifull boat..

The dealer told me it was just stress cracks and that 90% of all used
boats have them.. I dont buy it..

I see Winners in Other states going for 5k - 6.5k.. These dealers are
nutts..

Maybe I need to lose my Winner Obsession.. I just remember my Parents
Chameleon was a great boat.

RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...


Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.

Those like like the style Fish n Ski I like... It must be that
vintage...

I notice they are mode by Ebbtide.. Wasn't Ebtide from Dicksville TN
just like Winner?

They look pretty simlar.. Then again It's an 80's Fish N Ski..

Jeffrae wrote:
RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...


Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.

Those like like the style Fish n Ski I like... It must be that
vintage...

I notice they are mode by Ebbtide.. Wasn't Ebtide from Dicksville TN
just like Winner?

They look pretty simlar.. Then again It's an 80's Fish N Ski..

dickson Tn.. sorry

According to this Article.. Ebbtide made the Winners Too...

http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/DicksonArticleRDB.html

Jeffrae wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:

RichZ wrote:

Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...


Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.

Those like like the style Fish n Ski I like... It must be that
vintage...

I notice they are mode by Ebbtide.. Wasn't Ebtide from Dicksville TN
just like Winner?

They look pretty simlar.. Then again It's an 80's Fish N Ski..


dickson Tn.. sorry

According to this Article.. Ebbtide made the Winners Too...

http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/DicksonArticleRDB.html


The article is patently wrong. I had factory deals with both Ebbtide
(Dynatrak) and Winner. Spent time at both factories. Ebbtide was in
White Bluff, on Jones Creek Road. Still is, to my knowledge, although
they aren't in the bass boat business any more.

Winner was in Dickson, but was several different entities over the
years. In the 40s, it was in NJ, and was among the first manfacturers of
fiberglass boats. Before MFG entered the boat business in the mid-50s
(before that, they made the first corvette bodies!) Winner was the
largest manufacturer of fiberglass boats. Anyway, they moved to Dixon in
the 70s, I think. They were bought out by Thompson Boats and moved to
Wisconsin in the mid-70s, and Thompson closed them up after two years.
Ned(?) Momany, who was the guy behind the Winner boat that we know, ahd
been the designed for Winner in TN, and restarted the company at its old
site, in 1980, and ran it until its demise in about 90 or 91, although
he had an ongoing legal battle with Thompson over the rights to the
Winner name. He turned up a few years later at Nitro, but I haven't seen
his name anywhere in the industry in at least 10 years.

RichZ wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:
Jeffrae wrote:

RichZ wrote:

Jeffrae wrote:


6K seamed pretty high for an 88...


Yeah -- about 3K too high.

My kid bought a Dynatrak F&S of about that vintage last year (similar
interior layout, BTW) for $2200.

Those like like the style Fish n Ski I like... It must be that
vintage...

I notice they are mode by Ebbtide.. Wasn't Ebtide from Dicksville TN
just like Winner?

They look pretty simlar.. Then again It's an 80's Fish N Ski..


dickson Tn.. sorry

According to this Article.. Ebbtide made the Winners Too...

http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/DicksonArticleRDB.html


The article is patently wrong. I had factory deals with both Ebbtide
(Dynatrak) and Winner. Spent time at both factories. Ebbtide was in
White Bluff, on Jones Creek Road. Still is, to my knowledge, although
they aren't in the bass boat business any more.

Winner was in Dickson, but was several different entities over the
years. In the 40s, it was in NJ, and was among the first manfacturers of
fiberglass boats. Before MFG entered the boat business in the mid-50s
(before that, they made the first corvette bodies!) Winner was the
largest manufacturer of fiberglass boats. Anyway, they moved to Dixon in
the 70s, I think. They were bought out by Thompson Boats and moved to
Wisconsin in the mid-70s, and Thompson closed them up after two years.
Ned(?) Momany, who was the guy behind the Winner boat that we know, ahd
been the designed for Winner in TN, and restarted the company at its old
site, in 1980, and ran it until its demise in about 90 or 91, although
he had an ongoing legal battle with Thompson over the rights to the
Winner name. He turned up a few years later at Nitro, but I haven't seen
his name anywhere in the industry in at least 10 years.

Thanks for this info.. I wish there was more information on the company
out there.. Other companies dissapeared, but it is like Winner never
existed..

Thanks for taking the time to give me a history lesson..

Jeff

Hopefully there are enough of these out there so that I can get my
hands on a decent one..