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Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag



 
 
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Old November 13th, 2006, 03:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Bob La Londe
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag

Ages ago my dad and I used to set the drag on our reels with a spring scale.
We would usually set the drag so it slipped at about 1/3 of the line test
when pulling directly against the reel.

That being said I always wondered if that was wise or if we should have set
it even lighter. I have to be honest we never broke off many fish. If we
did they were real toads that wrapped us up or were just too big to fight on
the amount of line we had.

The reason I wonder about the wisdom of our drag settings is that it takes a
lot more force to strip drag through the guides of a rod arced over than
straight off the reel. We probably had a good comprimise, but I wonder if
we might have been more accurate in our useful setting if we had used the
spring scale to set the drag at about 1/2 of line strength through the rod
arced over... hmmm...


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Old November 13th, 2006, 09:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Charles B. Summers
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag

Be a man Bob. Crank that sucker down as tight as it'll go and spool the reel
with your thumb as you need to.

All my drags get set that way!


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ages ago my dad and I used to set the drag on our reels with a spring
scale. We would usually set the drag so it slipped at about 1/3 of the
line test when pulling directly against the reel.

That being said I always wondered if that was wise or if we should have
set it even lighter. I have to be honest we never broke off many fish.
If we did they were real toads that wrapped us up or were just too big to
fight on the amount of line we had.

The reason I wonder about the wisdom of our drag settings is that it takes
a lot more force to strip drag through the guides of a rod arced over than
straight off the reel. We probably had a good comprimise, but I wonder if
we might have been more accurate in our useful setting if we had used the
spring scale to set the drag at about 1/2 of line strength through the rod
arced over... hmmm...


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Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
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http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Old November 13th, 2006, 10:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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Be a man Bob. Crank that sucker down as tight as it'll go and spool the
reel with your thumb as you need to.

All my drags get set that way!


That's pretty much how I set mine too Charles! If it works for muskies in
the weeds, stumps and logs, it'll work for bass too, I reckon.....
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Old November 13th, 2006, 11:14 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
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"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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Be a man Bob. Crank that sucker down as tight as it'll go and spool the
reel with your thumb as you need to.

All my drags get set that way!


That's pretty much how I set mine too Charles! If it works for muskies in
the weeds, stumps and logs, it'll work for bass too, I reckon.....
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Then maybe you are using to heavy of tackle.


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Old November 13th, 2006, 11:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
RichZ
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag

Bob La Londe wrote:
Ages ago my dad and I used to set the drag on our reels with a spring scale.
We would usually set the drag so it slipped at about 1/3 of the line test
when pulling directly against the reel.

That being said I always wondered if that was wise or if we should have set
it even lighter. I have to be honest we never broke off many fish. If we
did they were real toads that wrapped us up or were just too big to fight on
the amount of line we had.

The reason I wonder about the wisdom of our drag settings is that it takes a
lot more force to strip drag through the guides of a rod arced over than
straight off the reel. We probably had a good comprimise, but I wonder if
we might have been more accurate in our useful setting if we had used the
spring scale to set the drag at about 1/2 of line strength through the rod
arced over... hmmm...


http://www.richz.com/fishing/fishtips/backreel.html
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Old November 14th, 2006, 01:11 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag


"Calif Bill" wrote in message SNIP

That's pretty much how I set mine too Charles! If it works for muskies
in the weeds, stumps and logs, it'll work for bass too, I reckon.....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Then maybe you are using to heavy of tackle.


6'6" Medium Light to 7' Medium Heavy with a Curado 200 or Cardiff 100 reel?
Nah, I just developed a very educated thumb and sense for how much pressure
I can put on a fish. I rarely break off a fish due to line snapping.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 02:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Charles B. Summers
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag

Sure Rich... if you're using spinning tackle. I prefer the winch method
myself... so Ken says.


"RichZ" wrote in message
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Bob La Londe wrote:
Ages ago my dad and I used to set the drag on our reels with a spring
scale. We would usually set the drag so it slipped at about 1/3 of the
line test when pulling directly against the reel.

That being said I always wondered if that was wise or if we should have
set it even lighter. I have to be honest we never broke off many fish.
If we did they were real toads that wrapped us up or were just too big to
fight on the amount of line we had.

The reason I wonder about the wisdom of our drag settings is that it
takes a lot more force to strip drag through the guides of a rod arced
over than straight off the reel. We probably had a good comprimise, but
I wonder if we might have been more accurate in our useful setting if we
had used the spring scale to set the drag at about 1/2 of line strength
through the rod arced over... hmmm...


http://www.richz.com/fishing/fishtips/backreel.html



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Old November 14th, 2006, 02:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Bob La Londe
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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Sure Rich... if you're using spinning tackle. I prefer the winch method
myself... so Ken says.


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
Ages ago my dad and I used to set the drag on our reels with a spring
scale. We would usually set the drag so it slipped at about 1/3 of the
line test when pulling directly against the reel.

That being said I always wondered if that was wise or if we should have
set it even lighter. I have to be honest we never broke off many fish.
If we did they were real toads that wrapped us up or were just too big
to fight on the amount of line we had.

The reason I wonder about the wisdom of our drag settings is that it
takes a lot more force to strip drag through the guides of a rod arced
over than straight off the reel. We probably had a good comprimise, but
I wonder if we might have been more accurate in our useful setting if we
had used the spring scale to set the drag at about 1/2 of line strength
through the rod arced over... hmmm...


http://www.richz.com/fishing/fishtips/backreel.html



I guess I just don't do it right. Except on my flipping rods I keep the
drags set so that they will slip on the hookset on any fish over two pounds,
and just use my thumb for extra pressure on bigger fish in open water. It
works for me.

On bigger fish (like 8-12 lb stripers) on spinning tackle I used to set the
drag slightly heavier, but not cinched down, and back wind as Rich
suggested. It works pretty well on those long runs, well atleast until your
palm starts to get beat up from acting as a brake against that spinning
handle on a long hard run. LOL.

As far as a lighter drag setting being a problem. Not unless you are
fighting monster fish. You can cup the spool with your palm on a spinning
reel or thumb it on a baitcaster jsut fine to add some brakes. I've done
exactly that many times when fishing 10lb line with topwater and I see a 4+
head for the tulies.

I guess I have tactics that work ok for me, but its been so long since I
fished really light tackle that I just needed to refresh my memory. Thanks
everybody.


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Old November 14th, 2006, 07:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
Calif Bill
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Default Fighting Big Fish on Light Tackle - How to Set The Drag


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message SNIP

That's pretty much how I set mine too Charles! If it works for muskies
in the weeds, stumps and logs, it'll work for bass too, I reckon.....
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Then maybe you are using to heavy of tackle.


6'6" Medium Light to 7' Medium Heavy with a Curado 200 or Cardiff 100
reel? Nah, I just developed a very educated thumb and sense for how much
pressure I can put on a fish. I rarely break off a fish due to line
snapping.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


I have set the drag before and do not touch it unless I am going to be
spooled. I learned fishing on the salt and you could hook in to very large
fish on the lighter gear. Fishing for Stripers at the Berkeley Pier as a
kid, you may get a 22# perch or an 80# Mud Marlin (ray).


 




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