OT or, old age ain't for sissies

"Frank Church" wrote in message
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Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle. It's been 5 weeks now since the operation. A buildup of
arthritis was the problem, and, it seems I have the same problem with
arthritis on the left shoulder, so he's gonna slice and dice me on 19 Dec.
Given the amount of Vicodin I have (and will) ingest, this winter will
just be a happy blur. Hearing is deteriorating so hearing tests are
scheduled for next week, probably a hearing aid in my future. (brother
Tom
and my son already have hearing aids)

Frank Sr.
Freaked out in Fremont

...is it spring yet?

I'll be thinkin' aboutcha on my B-Day 12/19. Hope all continues to go well
with your recovery!

Op

"rw" wrote in message
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wrote:
Frank Church wrote:

Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle. It's been 5 weeks now since the operation. A buildup of
arthritis was the problem, and, it seems I have the same problem with
arthritis on the left shoulder, so he's gonna slice and dice me on 19
Dec.
Given the amount of Vicodin I have (and will) ingest, this winter will
just be a happy blur.

It's a pity to waste Vicodin on pain. :-)


I've taken lots and lots of Vicodin, over the years for my back, and I have
never gotten even a touch of a buzz? It is merely a pain blocker for me. I
have talked to others who say that it messes with their minds, though. It
has never affected me in that way though? and I have taken as many as 4 at a
time, when my first back issues began. I must say, had it not been for
liberal amounts of Vicodin, before my first surgeries, I would certainly
have shot myself. Seriously. The pain I experience now is very difficult
and I have no pain meds at all. I simply have constant pain (not extreme
pain, though at times it is very painful) and an inability to use my hands.
According to my, new family doc, narcotics won't touch nerve pain. I have
every reason to believe her, because I was getting hydrocodone (Vicodin
generic--I think the tabs were imprinted with 650 something or other) and it
had no effect whatever on the pain in my arms and hands. She put me on a
regime of steroids and Neurontin (gabapentin) a anti-seizure med. The pain
in my left arm was gone in hours, but my hands and shoulders have remained a
pain in the ass!

Op

Opus wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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wrote:

Frank Church wrote:


Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle. It's been 5 weeks now since the operation. A buildup of
arthritis was the problem, and, it seems I have the same problem with
arthritis on the left shoulder, so he's gonna slice and dice me on 19
Dec.
Given the amount of Vicodin I have (and will) ingest, this winter will
just be a happy blur.

It's a pity to waste Vicodin on pain. :-)



I've taken lots and lots of Vicodin, over the years for my back, and I have
never gotten even a touch of a buzz? It is merely a pain blocker for me. I
have talked to others who say that it messes with their minds, though. It
has never affected me in that way though? and I have taken as many as 4 at a
time, when my first back issues began. I must say, had it not been for
liberal amounts of Vicodin, before my first surgeries, I would certainly
have shot myself. Seriously. The pain I experience now is very difficult
and I have no pain meds at all. I simply have constant pain (not extreme
pain, though at times it is very painful) and an inability to use my hands.
According to my, new family doc, narcotics won't touch nerve pain. I have
every reason to believe her, because I was getting hydrocodone (Vicodin
generic--I think the tabs were imprinted with 650 something or other) and it
had no effect whatever on the pain in my arms and hands. She put me on a
regime of steroids and Neurontin (gabapentin) a anti-seizure med. The pain
in my left arm was gone in hours, but my hands and shoulders have remained a
pain in the ass!

Op

I'm sorry to hear about your pain. I've used Neurontin. It works well,
but you need to titrate. It takes awhile to kick in -- like several
days. I hate that phantom pain you get with a pinched nerve. It's very
disturbing because it's not "real." It sucks.

I adore Vicodin -- probably too much. It's a good buzz. It works in
about 15 minutes.

Good luck with your surgery, Opus.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Frank Church" wrote in message
Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle.

Best of luck to you Frank. At present I'm too much of a sissy to get old;
but I'm hoping to toughen up a bit in the next few years.

Joe F.

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:31:32 GMT, rw
wrote:



I adore Vicodin -- probably too much. It's a good buzz. It works in
about 15 minutes.

I'm with Opie. No buzz. And, worse, no pain relief or so little I'd
do better with the ibuprofen I take now I've given up on the vicodin /
hyrodocone. Of course the fact that they make me barf up blood isn't
a good thing, either (not the ibuprofen, the codin cone things.)..
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:49:57 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:



Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle. It's been 5 weeks now since the operation. A buildup of
arthritis was the problem, and, it seems I have the same problem with
arthritis on the left shoulder, so he's gonna slice and dice me on 19 Dec.
Given the amount of Vicodin I have (and will) ingest, this winter will
just be a happy blur. Hearing is deteriorating so hearing tests are
scheduled for next week, probably a hearing aid in my future. (brother Tom
and my son already have hearing aids)

Frank Sr.
Freaked out in Fremont

...is it spring yet?



So glad you've got a pain med that works for you. And good luck to
you, too, on your surgery.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Cyli wrote in
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:49:57 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:

So glad you've got a pain med that works for you. And good luck to
you, too, on your surgery.

I have tried ibu and aspirin but they both crank up my tinnitus to damn
near intolerable levels...thanks to all for the good wishes...this too
shall pass and I intend to jerk a few lips come next spring.

Frank Sr.
....besides, I don't need to remember the winter of 06-07 do I?

Opus typed:
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The pain in my left arm was gone in hours, but
my hands and shoulders have remained a pain in the ass!

I think I've spotted the problem. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim,
who would like to know where your head was while your shoulders were a
pain in the ass. B*SE*G
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Hearing is deteriorating so hearing tests are scheduled for next week, probably a hearing aid in my future.

Frank, if you were subjected to noise while in the military, the VA
may determine that your hearing loss is service-connected and if so,
will provide you with hearing aids and a lifetime supply of batteries.

I received two digital aids just a couple of months ago, because the
VA determined my recent hearing loss was probably caused by flying
noisy military airplanes half a century ago.

Good luck.

vince

I hope you have very good results Frank.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Frank Church" wrote in message
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Right shoulder is on the mend after my sawbones sawed off the last 1 inch
of the clavicle. It's been 5 weeks now since the operation. A buildup of
arthritis was the problem, and, it seems I have the same problem with
arthritis on the left shoulder, so he's gonna slice and dice me on 19 Dec.
Given the amount of Vicodin I have (and will) ingest, this winter will
just be a happy blur. Hearing is deteriorating so hearing tests are
scheduled for next week, probably a hearing aid in my future. (brother
Tom
and my son already have hearing aids)

Frank Sr.
Freaked out in Fremont

...is it spring yet?