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  #31  
Old June 13th, 2004, 02:45 PM
Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)
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If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor.
Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your
plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a
cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc
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"Charles T. Low" wrote in message ...
Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured
somewhere along its length.

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"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the

rope
to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1







  #32  
Old June 13th, 2004, 03:31 PM
Wayne.B
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:48:28 -0400, "Charles T. Low"
wrote:

How do you know that?


===========================

It's called: "Coming up empty handed".

....in a very real sense of the expression.

:-)

  #33  
Old June 13th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Jerry
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Sierra fisher wrote:
I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of
the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor.
Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water.
With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a
little less than the length of the chain.
If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above
the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be
suspended just at the water level.
What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that
could slide up and down the rope?


When I lived near the Delta by San Francisco a chain on the anchor line
was needed due to the fast current and wave action to keep a boat in
place. Now living near a lake in the mid west and also using a pontoon
I don't bother with a chain for the very reason you stated. The trick
is using the proper anchor and plenty of anchor rope to get the anchor
to dig in. Using a chain is not necessary in all situations and lakes
are one of those situations.

Jerry

  #34  
Old June 13th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Jerry
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Peggie Hall wrote:
BEAU wrote:

what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?



I thought it would obvious to anyone following this discussion that one
end of the chain attaches to the rope, the other end of the chain to the
anchor. Apparently I was wrong...

Peggie Hall



Yes, you were ............... things can only be obvious if you have
some experience in the area of the obvious. Now that it was explained
to him it is probable "now" obvious..........

Jerry

  #35  
Old June 14th, 2004, 04:37 AM
Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)
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I need to stop posting when I'm tired. I have enough trouble typing when I'm awake! Doc
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"Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ...
If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor.
Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your
plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a
cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc
================================================== ==================

"Charles T. Low" wrote in message ...
Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured
somewhere along its length.

====

Charles T. Low
- remove "UN"
www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest
www.boatdocking.com
www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat

====

"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the

rope
to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1









  #36  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 06:24 AM
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"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA



VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve


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Old June 22nd, 2004, 01:49 PM
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"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.


  #38  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 01:53 PM
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Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.




This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I
rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth,
current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow
water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out.
  #39  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 11:33 PM
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:24:47 -0700, "SteveB" wrote:


"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA



VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.


Those aren't "Real Seamen" - those are "Freshwater Seamen".

*Real Seamen* always carry enough rope to do 5 to 1 or better...
  #40  
Old June 22nd, 2004, 11:36 PM
daytripper
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.




This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I
rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth,
current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow
water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out.


Winning answer to "How do you know when you're fishing in your own bathtub?"

;-)
 




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