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Wolfgang wrote:
Moron. Wolfgang Pot! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Mar 1, 3:51 pm, " wrote:
On Mar 1, 1:27 pm, "rb608" wrote: On Mar 1, 1:02 pm, wrote: So let me get this straight: as long as you got the means, you can simply _buy_ your way out of modifying your lifestyle for The Cause? Point 2 - Al Gore has, in fact, set an example as to how one may substantially alter one's lifestyle to reduce their impact on the global environment; and he has done it with more than his wallet. He has also, to his great credit, put his money where his mouth is. The point appears to be that if you have enough money you can purchase your morality without having to alter your energy usage. So preaching that we can all be "carbon neutral" because you have the bucks to buy your innocence does seem to be hypocritical. FWIW, I have no real feelings pro/con about Gore...the hypocrisy is funny nonetheless. Yeah, hypocrisy IS funny. ![]() You know, I cannot find it in my heart to fault Joe for treating you and kennie and jonnie and dicklet and stevie and......like adults. Hell, it's hardly a secret that I derived some amusement from doing so myself for a couple of years......remember? But, of course, I could not continue to do so in good conscience because it was obvious that none of you gained any real benefit from it and it bacame (and continues to become) increasingly undeniable that as consumers all of you are a profound embarrassment to American higher education.....and even secondary education. Worse, several of you are an even greater embarrassment as putative purveyors of education. Here's what I should do: Find out where you boys play on your off time and spend a few evenings sitting in a dark booth at the end of the bar and listen to you and your nitwit peers tell each other how hip and cool and smart and nice you are. Wanna see beer squirt out of my nose? ![]() Here's what you (plural) should do: For good or ill, English is the lingua franca of ROFF. You should learn to read and write in English. Then you should learn something about the subject matter in the particular threads in which you choose to demonstrate yet again what we all already know about you. None of this will make any difference whatsoever. Wolfgang that's right, the fun never stops! ![]() |
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On Mar 1, 4:03 pm, wrote:
On 1 Mar 2007 13:27:24 -0800, "rb608" wrote: On Mar 1, 1:02 pm, wrote: So let me get this straight: as long as you got the means, you can simply _buy_ your way out of modifying your lifestyle for The Cause? Point 1 - My objection to the article has little to do with climate change or Al Gore. I object to it because it's a bold-faced lie masquerading as "journalism". Anyone who wanted to could easily confirm *all* of the relevent facts; but this author feels bound by no such imperative. He is a lying sack of ****, and I enthusiatically extend that moniker to anyone who would promote this bull****. OK, what in the story was a "lie?" And you mentioned in a prior reply about security - what security system would warrant THAT kind of electrical and NG consumption? In fact, what sort of security system do you envision that uses ANY NG? Point 2 - Al Gore has, in fact, set an example as to how one may substantially alter one's lifestyle to reduce their impact on the global environment; and he has done it with more than his wallet. He has also, to his great credit, put his money where his mouth is. Er, no, not really. He leads an excessively consumptive lifestyle, and as such, he consumes (or indirectly causes the consumption of) excessive amounts of energy. For example, unless he has acquired something else recently, when he drives, he drives big Cadillacs and a 60-something Mustang, and when he doesn't, well, let's just say he doesn't regularly alight from a chauffeur-driven Prius...and GS-V's aren't exactly models of fuel-efficient transportation... There ain't a single rational universe in which Al Gore can claim to live a "carbon-neutral" life. I disagree. Yeah sure, we all emit CO2 when we exhale, drive our cars, flip on the TV, or use any energy source generated by the burning of fossil fuel or use any product created by the same. I believe it is possible however, to alter our consumption in conjunction with compensatory prevention of emissions elsewhere to the extent we could reasonably be considered "carbon neutral" in relation to the net quantity of CO2 emissions we generate. Quantifying the amount is no simple matter, but the concept is rational IMHO. I agree. But Gore doesn't do anywhere near what he could, and could do easily. It's not like solar systems are new, and I'm pretty sure he could afford a fuel cell. He's not the biggest hypocrite on the face of the planet, but a lot of his "lifestyle" is very hypocritical. 1: Do you think you could possible get any dumber? 2: If so, how would you go about it? Seriously. Wolfgang who will grant that, at roughly 5,000,000,000 or so, HIS OWN solar system isn't exactly brand spanking new......but believes that others are still coming off the line all the time. |
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On Mar 1, 5:01 pm, 13thchoise wrote:
Wolfgang wrote: Moron. Wolfgang Pot! Dumbass. Wolfgang |
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On Mar 1, 2:27 pm, "rb608" wrote:
Point 2 - Al Gore has, in fact, set an example as to how one may substantially alter one's lifestyle to reduce their impact on the Ok, so he moved from the top 0.1% of energy users to the top 0.2%(*) I guess that's progress. So no worries, mon! (*: yes, I'm guessing, but a big mansion and jetsetting around the world ain't exactly being a Bangladeshi) believe it is possible however, to alter our consumption in conjunction with compensatory prevention of emissions elsewhere to the extent we could reasonably be considered "carbon neutral" in relation to the net quantity of CO2 emissions we generate. I agree, as long as we throw away any semblence of a first world lifestyle. As long as we and the "spokespeople" perpetuate the myth, like Kermit in the Ford spots, that "it's easy being green" (just gotta buy the hybrid SUV), there will be no measurable slowdown in GH emissions. That anthropocentric global warming is happening is an obvious no brainer as far as I'm concerned. But I've not yet met a single first-world person, even among those who think GW will bring disaster, who is willing to voluntarily alter their lifestyle to the extent it will take to significantly do anything about GW. No, they just like the warm fuzzies they get from driving a Prius. Anyone who _truly_ believes GW is going to bring disaster unless we do something now, and who still lives a first-world lifestyle, is by definition acting inconsistent with their beliefs. Jon. |
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On Mar 1, 5:29 pm, wrote:
On Mar 1, 2:27 pm, "rb608" wrote: Point 2 - Al Gore has, in fact, set an example as to how one may substantially alter one's lifestyle to reduce their impact on the Ok, so he moved from the top 0.1% of energy users to the top 0.2%(*) I guess that's progress. So no worries, mon! (*: yes, I'm guessing, but a big mansion and jetsetting around the world ain't exactly being a Bangladeshi) believe it is possible however, to alter our consumption in conjunction with compensatory prevention of emissions elsewhere to the extent we could reasonably be considered "carbon neutral" in relation to the net quantity of CO2 emissions we generate. I agree, as long as we throw away any semblence of a first world lifestyle. As long as we and the "spokespeople" perpetuate the myth, like Kermit in the Ford spots, that "it's easy being green" (just gotta buy the hybrid SUV), there will be no measurable slowdown in GH emissions. That anthropocentric global warming is happening is an obvious no brainer as far as I'm concerned. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! ![]() But I've not yet met a single first-world person, even among those who think GW will bring disaster, who is willing to voluntarily alter their lifestyle to the extent it will take to significantly do anything about GW. No, they just like the warm fuzzies they get from driving a Prius. Anyone who _truly_ believes GW is going to bring disaster unless we do something now, and who still lives a first-world lifestyle, is by definition acting inconsistent with their beliefs. Well, he's already gotten us into two useless wars......to the tune of about half a trillion dollars and a hundred thousand or so corpses. How do YOU define disaster? And how does my having Indian, Mexican, Thai, Chinese, German, Vietnamese, Greek, and Italian markets within walking distance play into the equation? Wolfgang who didn't used to think that thinking globally was all that tough. ![]() |
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On Mar 1, 2:57 pm, "rb608" wrote:
On Mar 1, 4:51 pm, " wrote: FWIW, I have no real feelings pro/con about Gore I don't think that's entirely true. Why else would you post the article? Joe F. Because it was funny. There's no way I can ever prove it to you. You'll just have to trust me. I think that Clinton was a lowlife, but think that Gore paid a high price for being associated with him. - Ken |
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On Mar 1, 2:05 pm, "Opus" wrote:
" wrote in message FWIW, I have no real feelings pro/con about Gore...the hypocrisy is funny nonetheless. - Ken You're bordering on obsession, what with two exact posts :~^ ) You do it again, and folks may et the impression that you are trying to start a movement! I made fun of him for inventing the internet back in the 90's, so I guess it might be 3 posts now.....wait does this post count too? DAMN! - Ken |
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On 1 Mar 2007 15:49:24 -0800, "Wolfgang" wrote:
On Mar 1, 5:29 pm, wrote: [...] But I've not yet met a single first-world person, even among those who think GW will bring disaster, who is willing to voluntarily alter their lifestyle to the extent it will take to significantly do anything about GW. No, they just like the warm fuzzies they get from driving a Prius. Anyone who _truly_ believes GW is going to bring disaster unless we do something now, and who still lives a first-world lifestyle, is by definition acting inconsistent with their beliefs. Well, he's already gotten us into two useless wars......to the tune of about half a trillion dollars and a hundred thousand or so corpses. How do YOU define disaster? And how does my having Indian, Mexican, Thai, Chinese, German, Vietnamese, Greek, and Italian markets within walking distance play into the equation? ahahahahahaha! I had to read Jon's post twice (which was at least twice more than it was worth), but even though it sure sounds like he was talking about GW Bush - what with the repeated use of the Disaster word and all - he really wasn't.... /daytripper (but he could have - or should have ;-) |
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On Mar 1, 5:00 pm, 13thchoise wrote:
Wolfgang wrote: Idiot. Wolfgang Pot? Kettle? Ok., just what is it you're trying to say here? Are you saying something about the kettle calling the black pot?.......or is the black perhaps calling the pot kettle? English is not your first or second language is it? Wolfgang fess up now, who in this place is NOT overjoyed every time someone even dumber than the kennies, stevie, jonnie.......and dicklet......shows up? ![]() |
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