On The Lake

Larry L wrote:
"Tim Lysyk" wrote

I have a memory of not being able to take Bear Spray into Canada, or maybe
it was from there back into the U.S. Do you know if this is true? My
most scary bear moment of my life was at Mystic Lake in Banff, too many
years ago ... I have a fresh can of bear spray and plan to hike some, will I
have to leave it in the U.S., buy a new one and then give it away?



Hi Larry:

For information on what you can bring into Canada, see the Canadian
Border Services Agency website. The article at

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/media/fac...s/061-eng.html

specifically mentions

"You cannot bring weapons such as mace or pepper spray into Canada
under any circumstances."

I would take their word for it. I also don't recommend lying to customs
officers. It is illegal to make false declarations and can land you in
hot water. I only mention this as a counterpoint to Ken's advice.

It is legal to purchase and carry pepper spray in Canada. You may have
to sign a waiver at the time of purchase, but the inconvenience is small.

Tim Lysyk

"Tim Lysyk" wrote

I would take their word for it. I also don't recommend lying to customs
officers. It is illegal to make false declarations and can land you in hot
water. I only mention this as a counterpoint to Ken's advice.

It is legal to purchase and carry pepper spray in Canada. You may have to
sign a waiver at the time of purchase, but the inconvenience is small.



Thanks Tim ... actually I went straght from "send" on my post to a Google
and found the same link

I agree that lying hardly seems worth the possible consequences. I've
decided that I'll just leave my spray with friends in W.Yellowstone and pick
it up when I get back G If I feel the need for spray in Canada, that $$
isn't going to be the final straw that bankrupts me.

Thanks for your help ...

Tim Lysyk wrote:
Larry L wrote:
"Tim Lysyk" wrote
I have a memory of not being able to take Bear Spray into Canada, or
maybe it was from there back into the U.S. Do you know if this is
true? My most scary bear moment of my life was at Mystic Lake in
Banff, too many years ago ... I have a fresh can of bear spray and
plan to hike some, will I have to leave it in the U.S., buy a new one
and then give it away?

Hi Larry:

For information on what you can bring into Canada, see the Canadian
Border Services Agency website. The article at

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/media/fac...s/061-eng.html

specifically mentions

"You cannot bring weapons such as mace or pepper spray into Canada
under any circumstances."

I would take their word for it. I also don't recommend lying to customs
officers. It is illegal to make false declarations and can land you in
hot water. I only mention this as a counterpoint to Ken's advice. ...

It is legal to bring bear spray into Canada but if you tell
them you have bear spray they won't let you across the border
with it. So **** 'em, if I get into hot water I'll be able to
take my case to someone who actually knows Canadian law. I will
never again leave two canisters of bear spray worth about $100
with the idiot customs droids just because they're too goddamn
stupid to know the laws of their own country. Besides, by the
time they get done checking Kipper the Hound's vaccination,
dental, citizenship and bowel movement records they don't bother
with anything else.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Larry L wrote:
"Tim Lysyk" wrote

I would take their word for it. I also don't recommend lying to customs
officers. It is illegal to make false declarations and can land you in hot
water. I only mention this as a counterpoint to Ken's advice.

It is legal to purchase and carry pepper spray in Canada. You may have to
sign a waiver at the time of purchase, but the inconvenience is small.



Thanks Tim ... actually I went straght from "send" on my post to a Google
and found the same link

I agree that lying hardly seems worth the possible consequences. I've
decided that I'll just leave my spray with friends in W.Yellowstone and pick
it up when I get back G If I feel the need for spray in Canada, that $$
isn't going to be the final straw that bankrupts me.

Thanks for your help ...

That's your best bet. Crossing the border at Glacier you might
run into a Customs staff more knowledgeable about the bear spray
regulations but it's not worth the hassle if you run into idiot
border droids. I usually cross the border at Pigeon River in Ontario
and I don't even bother to declare bear spray anymore.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

It is legal to bring bear spray into Canada but if you tell
them you have bear spray they won't let you across the border
with it. So **** 'em, if I get into hot water I'll be able to
take my case to someone who actually knows Canadian law. I will
never again leave two canisters of bear spray worth about $100
with the idiot customs droids just because they're too goddamn
stupid to know the laws of their own country. Besides, by the
time they get done checking Kipper the Hound's vaccination,
dental, citizenship and bowel movement records they don't bother
with anything else.

I recall you sneering at the idea of bear spray, maintaining that
intimate knowledge of bear behavior (possessed by you, of course) and
following standard rules in bear country were all that was necessary.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:52:09 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


"Tim Lysyk" wrote


You don't need a passport (yet) to drive across the border. That rule
comes into effect in 2008. You only need a passport for air travel right
now.

Tim Lysyk


I think maybe I asked this stuff a couple years ago and then my plans
changed

I have a memory of not being able to take Bear Spray into Canada, or maybe
it was from there back into the U.S. Do you know if this is true? My
most scary bear moment of my life was at Mystic Lake in Banff, too many
years ago ... I have a fresh can of bear spray and plan to hike some, will I
have to leave it in the U.S., buy a new one and then give it away?


If you are going to use bear spray, don't forget to attach bells to
your vest or hiking boots. And, always remember that bear scat smells
like pepper and has little bells in it. d;o(

rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

It is legal to bring bear spray into Canada but if you tell
them you have bear spray they won't let you across the border
with it. So **** 'em, if I get into hot water I'll be able to
take my case to someone who actually knows Canadian law. I will
never again leave two canisters of bear spray worth about $100
with the idiot customs droids just because they're too goddamn
stupid to know the laws of their own country. Besides, by the
time they get done checking Kipper the Hound's vaccination,
dental, citizenship and bowel movement records they don't bother
with anything else.

I recall you sneering at the idea of bear spray, maintaining that
intimate knowledge of bear behavior (possessed by you, of course) and
following standard rules in bear country were all that was necessary.

I don't ever recall saying I have an "intimate knowledge of bear
behavior". I do recall saying that having experience, vigilance
and common sense is a better defense against a bear encounter than
pepper spray. I don't usually carry bear spray on a day trip whether
it's fishing or hiking, but if I'm going to camp overnight in bear
country I will carry bear spray.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Tim Lysyk" wrote


You don't need a passport (yet) to drive across the border. That rule
comes into effect in 2008. You only need a passport for air travel right
now.

Tim Lysyk


I think maybe I asked this stuff a couple years ago and then my plans
changed

I have a memory of not being able to take Bear Spray into Canada, or maybe
it was from there back into the U.S. Do you know if this is true?
My most scary bear moment of my life was at Mystic Lake in Banff, too many
years ago ... I have a fresh can of bear spray and plan to hike some, will
I have to leave it in the U.S., buy a new one and then give it away?


Crossing in BC last year, my buddy could bring his bear spray. And they
about took about the trailer looking for guns, as he stated he was traveling
to Alaska.

wrote:
On 4-May-2007, Tim Lysyk wrote:

The book is "Flyfishing the blackfeet country" by Robert F. Fairchild.
Mountain Front Publishing. isbn 0-9636681. It's pretty good, and it has
a map that shows Duck Lake on the reservation, about 29 miles north of
Browning.

Thanks

I will pick it up

Fred
Be aware that the winds on Duck Lake can be (and usually are) gale
force. The winds come down from the park and, with nothing to slow them
down until they hit the Foshay tower in Minneapolis, they howl.
Putting up with the wind does have its rewards. The rainbows are huge
and plentyful.
Also be aware that there are few facilities on or near the lake. Stock
up in Great Falls. Browning has few, if any, fishing supplies.

Have a great trip!

-Bob

wrote:
On 4-May-2007, Tim Lysyk wrote:

The book is "Flyfishing the blackfeet country" by Robert F. Fairchild.
Mountain Front Publishing. isbn 0-9636681. It's pretty good, and it has
a map that shows Duck Lake on the reservation, about 29 miles north of
Browning.

Thanks

I will pick it up

Fred

Be aware that the winds on Duck Lake can be (and usually are) gale
force. The winds come down from the park and, with nothing to slow them
down until they hit the Foshay tower in Minneapolis, they howl.
Putting up with the wind does have its rewards. The rainbows are huge
and plentyful.
Also be aware that there are few facilities on or near the lake. Stock
up in Great Falls. Browning has few, if any, fishing supplies.

Have a great trip!

-Bob