Line choice

Okay guy's - we just got the two reels in for my brother and
brother-in-law's birthdays and now I need to get some line and backing.

I'll describe the type of fishing they'll be doing with the rod/reel they're
getting as gifts:

1. 9', 9 wt rod for brother who likes to fish for steelheads and salmon in
northern NY and for large-mouth bass. Cold weather freak.....

2. 9', 8 wt rod for brother-in-law who likes to fish for bass, trout and may
go for steelheads now that he'll have a heavier rod/reel. More of a warm
weather fisherman - like me.

For #1 should this be floating or sinking -or- go with an interchangeable
line? He'll be fishing in cold weather too (snow and ice) and will probably
even try to use the new rig when he's ice fishing through a hole - just to
show off....;-)

For #2, he likes the streams, small lakes and rivers but does want to try
some bigger / faster waters for larger trout - hence the 8 wt outfit Wants
to make it out to Montana and Alaska next year for a dream trip. I hope to
be on that trip also.

Well aware that one line will not do it all but I'll get them started with a
good one to start at least....

This gives you some insight as to what they will be fishing for and what
their styles are. I have tested a few lines so far and I'm not to impressed
with the Cortland lines like the 555 or 333, they're okay and I have 2 spare
spools with those lines on but I prefer the 444 series for warm weather in
the lighter weights and softer rod.

Just got the wife's reel wound with some Orvis Wonderline Gen 3 (5wt) and
was out tossing it around in the backyard during some heavy winds Monday -
and I was very impressed. The TLS (8'6', 5wt, 4 pc rod) and this line
worked beautifully - and even as a novice, I could punch it out 50', and hit
a 30" target (well, most of the time) in an almost head-on, gusty wind. It
was so strong at times that the line literally dumped in front of me during
a gust - to give you an idea of how windy it was.

I have SA GPX line on my 8 wt rod and it's actually about a 8.5 wt and loads
up the St. Croix 8 wt rod (fast+) nicely and shoots it out there pretty
good. I've not tried Rio brand yet but have read some good reviews. The
major players in our area (upstate NY) seem to be Cortland, SA and Rio
lines.

Your comments and wisdom appreciated,

Bob S.

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Okay guy's - we just got the two reels in for my brother and
brother-in-law's birthdays and now I need to get some line and
backing.
I'll describe the type of fishing they'll be doing with the rod/reel
they're getting as gifts:

1. 9', 9 wt rod for brother who likes to fish for steelheads and
salmon in northern NY and for large-mouth bass. Cold weather
freak.....
2. 9', 8 wt rod for brother-in-law who likes to fish for bass, trout
and may go for steelheads now that he'll have a heavier rod/reel.
More of a warm weather fisherman - like me.

For #1 should this be floating or sinking -or- go with an
interchangeable line? He'll be fishing in cold weather too (snow and
ice) and will probably even try to use the new rig when he's ice
fishing through a hole - just to show off....;-)

For #2, he likes the streams, small lakes and rivers but does want to
try some bigger / faster waters for larger trout - hence the 8 wt
outfit Wants to make it out to Montana and Alaska next year for a
dream trip. I hope to be on that trip also.

Well aware that one line will not do it all but I'll get them started
with a good one to start at least....

This gives you some insight as to what they will be fishing for and
what their styles are. I have tested a few lines so far and I'm not
to impressed with the Cortland lines like the 555 or 333, they're
okay and I have 2 spare spools with those lines on but I prefer the
444 series for warm weather in the lighter weights and softer rod.

Just got the wife's reel wound with some Orvis Wonderline Gen 3 (5wt)
and was out tossing it around in the backyard during some heavy winds
Monday - and I was very impressed. The TLS (8'6', 5wt, 4 pc rod) and
this line worked beautifully - and even as a novice, I could punch it
out 50', and hit a 30" target (well, most of the time) in an almost
head-on, gusty wind. It was so strong at times that the line
literally dumped in front of me during a gust - to give you an idea
of how windy it was.
I have SA GPX line on my 8 wt rod and it's actually about a 8.5 wt
and loads up the St. Croix 8 wt rod (fast+) nicely and shoots it out
there pretty good. I've not tried Rio brand yet but have read some
good reviews. The major players in our area (upstate NY) seem to be
Cortland, SA and Rio lines.

Your comments and wisdom appreciated,

Bob S.

ehm, a kind respons from Holland, usually you pick a line that suites your
rod and then you look for the rod/reel combination. Since both rods/reels
are pretty heavy, #8 and #9, i'd go for 30lbs backing and maybe a S.A.
Mastery line.

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straight lines & tight loops,

Vliegvisser

ehm, a kind respons from Holland, usually you pick a line that suites your
rod and then you look for the rod/reel combination. Since both rods/reels
are pretty heavy, #8 and #9, i'd go for 30lbs backing and maybe a S.A.
Mastery line.

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(o) (o)
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straight lines & tight loops,

Vliegvisser


Perhaps my question was a bit wordy and confused everyone, so I'll rephrase
and shorten the questions:

1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line better
suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

2. For an 8wt rod, what would be a good choice of line for larger trout,
salmon and LM Bass in lakes/ponds, rivers and larger streams ?

Thanks,

Bob S.

"BobS" wrote in message
...

1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line better
suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

If steelhead or salmon are taking in fast water, they
are usually on the bottom, i.e. you need a sinking or sink-tip
line (selected according to how fast it will sink the fly
and how deep the water is.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

"BobS" wrote in message
...

1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line
better suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

If steelhead or salmon are taking in fast water, they
are usually on the bottom, i.e. you need a sinking or sink-tip
line (selected according to how fast it will sink the fly
and how deep the water is.)


IMO, using a floating line and adding the weight to your leader is much
more facile.

--
Scott
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Hak mir nisht ken tshaynik

2. For an 8wt rod, what would be a good choice of line for larger trout,
salmon and LM Bass in lakes/ponds, rivers and larger streams ?

I would recommend a good (i.e. Teeny or Rio) bass bug taper. This is
my primary line on my 8wt. Throws big, bushy flies easily and
alternately, works well with smaller flies in the wind. If I need to
use a sink tip, I have about 5 foot of sink tip with loop to loop
connectors that I put on this. Works great.
Frank Reid

On 9 Aug 2007 17:13:43 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

"BobS" wrote in message
...

1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line
better suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

If steelhead or salmon are taking in fast water, they
are usually on the bottom, i.e. you need a sinking or sink-tip
line (selected according to how fast it will sink the fly
and how deep the water is.)


IMO, using a floating line and adding the weight to your leader is much
more facile.

Um..."facile" or "tactile?"

Curious,
R

Ok guy's - Thank you again.

Here's what I'm going with:

1. For my cold weather brother and steelheads / salmon in fast moving
water - Scientific Anglers WF9F Steelhead line and I will also get him some
sinking tips as suggested by Don, Scott and Frank.

2. For my brother-in-law and his love of warmer weather and LM bass - I'll
go with Rio WF8F Bass line as recommended by Frank

Also will pick up some leaders and tippet material while I'm at the shop so
the outfits will be ready to go......

Thank you,

Bob S.


PS - I will be getting around to asking "Where to go fishing in Maine"
question soon so get your maps fired up and I'll be looking for places to
stay too. Sept time frame

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On 9 Aug 2007 17:13:43 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

"BobS" wrote in message
...

1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line
better suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

If steelhead or salmon are taking in fast water, they
are usually on the bottom, i.e. you need a sinking or sink-tip
line (selected according to how fast it will sink the fly
and how deep the water is.)


IMO, using a floating line and adding the weight to your leader is much
more facile.

Um..."facile" or "tactile?"

Curious,
R


Looking for the right word. I was shooting for "more suitable in more
situations". Maybe adaptable?

Been noticing a tad of aphasia lately, has me a tad worried.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Scott Seidman wrote:
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4ax.com:


On 9 Aug 2007 17:13:43 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:


"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:


"BobS" wrote in message
. ..


1. For a 9wt rod, is a floating, sinking or an interchangeable line
better suited for steelhead/salmon fishing in fast water?

If steelhead or salmon are taking in fast water, they
are usually on the bottom, i.e. you need a sinking or sink-tip
line (selected according to how fast it will sink the fly
and how deep the water is.)


IMO, using a floating line and adding the weight to your leader is much
more facile.

Um..."facile" or "tactile?"

Curious,
R



Looking for the right word. I was shooting for "more suitable in more
situations". Maybe adaptable?

Been noticing a tad of aphasia lately, has me a tad worried.

"Facile" is a perfectly good word for what I took to be your intended
meaning. It has negative connotations in its first meaning, but its
secondary definition is on point.

I have little use for sinking lines in fast water. A floating line with
an indicator is usually more effective. Sinking lines are very useful in
stillwater.



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