Disaster and partial compensation

On Sep 13, 3:58 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:49:44 -0700, Mike
wrote:



Sorry Kenny boy. I very rarely drink at all nowadays and I am
absolutely sober right now. You are going to have to do better than
clutching at hopeless straws like that. I think I might put a nice
page up on my site, linking to some of the choicest posts you ever
made on here, especially the really nasty ones. Might be quite
interesting to see the results.

You are a nasty lying inadequate little ****, with no hope of
concealing that fact, there is no way out, you can´t discredit me
because nobody with any sense, or who knows me, will believe you. You
are just going to end up with more and more people seeing you for what
you are. Every single hopeless and frightened post you send here,
merely serves to confirm what I wrote, simply because otherwise you
would not do it. It is eating at your nasty inadequate guts isn´t it?
You are absolutely powerless to do anything about it, and I haven´t
even started yet. You have caused myself and others a lot of grief in
the past, with your nasty lying sneaky ways. That is never going to
happen again Kenny boy. You are going to have to learn to live with
your hopeless inadequacy, and I am going to remind you of it all the
time.You are going to get more and more hopelessly entangled in your
own web of ****, and you are going to be terrified by it, believe me.
It may even enrage you. Good, because then you will make even more
mistakes, like the lying deceitful nasty inadequate little **** bag
you are. What frightens you is that you know it don´t you?

Calling me a queer, or a drunk, or my family ****s, or any and all of
the really nasty things you have done to me and others, will do you no
good at all.

You can´t win Kenny boy, because you know you are inadequate, and you
are equally aware that I am not.

Come on Kenny boy, what´s the matter? Run out of bull**** and lies
already? It frightens you to know that somebody has you that well
pegged doesn´t it? Others wont be far behind either, when they
realise what you are, and all they have to do is tell you they know,
and you will just fold, simply because you are a nasty inadequate
piece of abusive ****, who is terrified of his own inadequacy.

You aren´t going to abuse anybody on here with impunity ever again
Kenny boy.

MC

Now I'm REALLY reminded of Cartman jacking off a dog...


SPLORK VAN MU! Is anybody still giving out POTW awards?

On 14 Sep, 14:03, salmobytes wrote:
Mike wrote:
Well, if you had any sense you would avoid Fortenberry like the plague

I'm going to sign off this (adjective unavailable) thread
now. (Heavenly father, free at last). But it is worth pointing
out that Ken Fortenberry is harmless. All you--or anybody else--have
to do is ignore his (or anybody else's) taunting posts. Think of it
this way:
when somebody insults you, and you react, you've given them
exactly what they wanted. You've already lost the battle.
And when you don't give them what they wanted, you've won,
without doing anything at all. That's called having your cake
and eating it too.

That is perfectly true, but the ****bag ruins every discussion. People
avoid any threads he posts to, and that makes the discussion
pointless.

Anyway, sorry I got ratty at you.

TL
MC

On 14 Sep, 13:10, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Refer to the one above I wrote last night. It's my
one-size-fits-all response to silly threats from
impotent kooks.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You still here ****bag? You already lost whatvever it is you thought
you might win Kenny boy, nobody with any sense will ever take you
seriously, nobody will ever like or respect you. You are completely
wasting your time. Everybody knows you have nothing to say worth
hearing.

MC

Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Refer to the one above I wrote last night. It's my
one-size-fits-all response to silly threats from
impotent kooks.

You still here ...

Always, but I'm surprised you are. I had considered you
quite loony but at the core rational enough as rational
enough goes. But any person who could post the disgusting
drivel you posted here yesterday and then have the audacity
to come back the next day is not rational. I fully expected
you would disappear in shame, as any rational person would.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 14 Sep, 19:44, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Refer to the one above I wrote last night. It's my
one-size-fits-all response to silly threats from
impotent kooks.

You still here ...

Always, but I'm surprised you are. I had considered you
quite loony but at the core rational enough as rational
enough goes. But any person who could post the disgusting
drivel you posted here yesterday and then have the audacity
to come back the next day is not rational. I fully expected
you would disappear in shame, as any rational person would.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Everybody knows what you are ****bag. Your posturing and bull****ting
will do you no good whatsoever. When you attack others, you reveal
more and more of yourself. You simply revealed too much Kenny boy, and
people know what you are. Most will now avoid you, some will even
counsel others to avoid you. I suppose the majority will merely
ignore you, because you are the source of many problems, as a result
of your inadequacy and stupidity.

This is not about me Kenny boy, it´s about you.

Telling me I am not rational, or should feel shame, is merely another
face of your delusional inadequacy. You use the same tactics all the
time,to try and bolster your own self esteem, and browbeat others. It
wont work any more Kenny boy.

Although quite a few people are doubtless fed up with reading this
****, none of them thinks I am irrational. They recognise the truth
when they see it. There is nothing you can do to change that Kenny
boy. So you can keep on posting this **** as long as you like, nobody
cares what you post on this matter, least of all I.

Apart form warning people about you, I will now also ignore you,
because there is no good reason to converse with a worthless piece of
**** on anything at all, except to show that he is in fact a worthless
piece of ****.

MC

On Sep 13, 2:57?am, Mike wrote:
On 13 Sep, 00:54, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:





Mike wrote:
Why would you want to catch plastic, artificially coloured trout, from
an artificial enclosure anyway? Quite apart from the extreme
environmental impact occasioned by the breeding and rearing of such
fish.

If you ever get the chance to eat a piece of fresh run seatrout, then
you should probably avoid it, as it will immediately cure you of any
illusions in respect to the taste of force fed rainbows forever. Then
there would be no point in catching them either.

I'd rather fish for wild fish as opposed to stockers but fishing
for stockers is better than no fishing at all. And to say that
there's no point in catching fish which don't taste like wild
fish is just silly. There are many reasons to catch a fish that
have nothing whatsoever to do with how the fish tastes compared
to wild fish.

The one thing that strikes me about Mr. MacPherson's report is
how lucky I am to be an angler in North America.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ah well, as this is a serious and important subject, I will do my best
to enlighten you on the matter. In order to produce a 3lb stock
rainbow, at least ten pounds, even by extremely conservative
estimates, of wild marine protein is required. Other estimates and
independent studies place this figure much higher. This protein is
obtained by raping the seas, damaging ecosystems beyond hope of
recovery, and decimating the food chain. The result is still far
inferior, both genetically and in the small matter of taste, than any
wild fish.

So people who fish for "stockers" are financing the inevitable
collapse of the oceans. This is already quite far gone in many
regions.

So, "fishing for stockers", is most emphatically not better than no
fishing at all, indeed it contributes significantly to the demise of
wild fish. Which will actually eventually result in there being no
fishing at all, and a lot sooner than many people realise.. The
levels of fish meal being produced for various purposes, already
exceeds the ocean´s capacity to recover form such irresponsible
pillage, and is increasing exponentially, as more and more greedy
salmon and other marine farmers realise that they can make a very
great deal of money by destroying the environment, producing an
inferior result, and incidentally wiping out whole systems of
anadromous fish. Ably assisted by large numbers of blind, ignorant,
and often corrupt politicians, and anglers who fish for such stocked
fish.

The ten or so pounds of evil tasting, genetically inferior, more or
less tame, force fed muck, that Mr.McPherson dragged out of Farmoor,
and then soaked in Grand Marnier, likely cost about forty pounds of
marine protein. The fish meal/oil producer made money on it, the fish
breeder/rearer made money on it, the people who sold Mr.McPherson the
tickets made money on it, and Mr.McPherson still does not know what a
fish tastes like.

The losers were, Mr.Mc.Pherson, and the environment, which wont be
losing for much longer, as it simply can not sustain that level of
damage for long.

This is considerably exacerbated by the fact that despite ongoing
research, there is no substitute for the fish oil in raising and
feeding salmonoids and some other fish.

So it´s not just about the taste.

Mr. Asadi is quite correct, and I agree with him.

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"In order to produce a 3lb stock
rainbow, at least ten pounds, even by extremely conservative
estimates, of wild marine protein is required. "
Time to go back to google. There's a place not far from here that
makes ingredients for fish food. The fish are processed to make
fillets and the guts, feathers fins and tails are used to make "wild
marine protein". In addition to fish they process a lot of Dungeness
crab nearby and the left over parts of the crab are ground up and made
into fish food. Those crab shells along with shrimp shells contain
some strange artifical chemical that cause the flesh of trout to turn
red.

On 14 Sep, 21:58, BJ Conner wrote:

Time to go back to google. There's a place not far from here that
makes ingredients for fish food. The fish are processed to make
fillets and the guts, feathers fins and tails are used to make "wild
marine protein". In addition to fish they process a lot of Dungeness
crab nearby and the left over parts of the crab are ground up and made
into fish food. Those crab shells along with shrimp shells contain
some strange artifical chemical that cause the flesh of trout to turn
red.

I don´t need Google for that, but you need to learn to read, so here´s
an extract and a link for you;

QUOTE

What Is Fishmeal

Fishmeal is a generic term for a nutrient-rich feed ingredient used
primarily in diets for domestic animals, sometimes used as a high-
quality organic fertilizer. Fishmeal can be made from almost any type
of seafood but is generally manufactured from wild-caught, small
marine fish that contain a high percentage of bones and oil, and
usually deemed not suitable for direct human consumption. These fishes
are considered 'industrial' since most of them are caught for the sole
purpose of fishmeal and fish oil production. A small percentage of
fishmeal is rendered from the by-catch of other fisheries, and by-
products or trimmings created during processing (e.g., fish filleting
and cannery operations) of various seafood products destined for
direct human consumption.

UNQUOTE

http://www.thefishsite.com/articles/...aculture-diets

You might also look up "Industrial fishing" while you are about it.

MC

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...
Soon on the lam,
R

I've got a place for you to hide out. Pack a 5 weight
rod and some fly boxes.
Tom

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SPLORK VAN MU! Is anybody still giving out POTW awards?

I think that trophy was retired a while back after the
same folks win it, sequentially. I may be wrong.....
Tom