the salmon of Alaska

Good stuff Wolfgang
Beardlesee {your author }writes of seeing a trout seizing the salmon eggs
from the breeding female and perhaps causing the wounds which are
frequently found on the female salmon's belly after spawning.

I'm currently enjoying reading "Explorations of Kamchatka 1735-1741 ". The
author claims the Russian salmon were so driven to move upstream to breed
that when too

exhausted to fight the current they would bite onto a fresher fishes tail
and be pulled thru the heavy water. The natives said you could see the
wounds on many fish tales. ----[sounds like a fish tale to me]
However when I fished a small stream in 1993 the salmon were so thick that I
could not get a fly below them to catch the rainbow swimming below and
feeding on the eggs. I just had to catch the25 inch salmon on my five
weight armed with a wooly booger.
Joe the Elder--have photo proof !

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
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Good stuff Wolfgang
Beardlesee {your author }writes of seeing a trout seizing the salmon eggs
from the breeding female and perhaps causing the wounds which are
frequently found on the female salmon's belly after spawning.

Interesting stuff to speculate about. I've never seen it myself, so
(breaking with ROFF's most hallowed tradition) I won't offer an opinion.

I'm currently enjoying reading "Explorations of Kamchatka 1735-1741 ".

I just checked my main on line sources. Alas, "Explorations of Kamchatka
1735-1741 " does not seem to be available as a free download.

The author claims the Russian salmon were so driven to move upstream to
breed that when too

exhausted to fight the current they would bite onto a fresher fishes tail
and be pulled thru the heavy water. The natives said you could see the
wounds on many fish tales. ----[sounds like a fish tale to me]

Yep, that's got a bit of a funny smell to it.

However when I fished a small stream in 1993 the salmon were so thick that
I could not get a fly below them to catch the rainbow swimming below and
feeding on the eggs. I just had to catch the25 inch salmon on my five
weight armed with a wooly booger.

Sometimes a boy's just gotta settle for what he can get, eh?

Joe the Elder--have photo proof !

Not that I doubt your tale, but I'd like to see that.

Wolfgang

On Oct 2, 3:21 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message

I'm currently enjoying reading "Explorations of Kamchatka 1735-1741 ".

I just checked my main on line sources. Alas, "Explorations of Kamchatka
1735-1741 " does not seem to be available as a free download.

The edition Joe is probably reading is too recent a translation to be
available as a freebie download, having been published by the Oregon
Historical Society in 1972.

Oddly, the 18th century translation also doesn't seem to be out there
in digi-land yet either. The original author was Stepan
Krasheninnikov, and the title of his journals was "Opisanie zemli
Kamchatki", an abridged version of which was translated by James
Grieve, MD in the 1760's as "The history of Kamtschatka, and the
Kurilski Islands, with the countries adjacent". From a brief search,
it would appear that there is a copy (original) of that one in
Madison, if your interest rises to that level! The 1972 translation
is more widely available (library-wise, that is, including UW-
Milwaukee) and is probably much easier to read.

You needed a few more items for your "to read" list anyhow, right?

:-)

Bill

wrote in message ----
Joe the Elder replies--you are right Bill--I enjoyed the 1972 Oregon
edition.--love our UNCW library--get to class two hours early--get my cup of
java--and peruse the stacks. At 7:30 am it is almost like being in
church.Leaving for a 19day trip to Turkey this week but when I return am
planning to view a 45 min film on the mating of brook trout. If the library
gets their only 16mm projector repaired.

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On Oct 2, 3:21 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message

I'm currently enjoying reading "Explorations of Kamchatka 1735-1741 ".

I just checked my main on line sources. Alas, "Explorations of Kamchatka
1735-1741 " does not seem to be available as a free download.

The edition Joe is probably reading is too recent a translation to be
available as a freebie download, having been published by the Oregon
Historical Society in 1972.

Yeah, I figured it was probably a recent edition. But at the rate that old
works are showing up on the web these days I thought maybe I'd get lucky.

Oddly, the 18th century translation also doesn't seem to be out there
in digi-land yet either.

I'm no longer surprised by what is NOT available on line yet. When one
considers the vast number of works.....even well known works.....that are
out there, it quickly becomes clear that even some of our favorite
"classics" might not show up for quite some time yet.

The original author was Stepan
Krasheninnikov, and the title of his journals was "Opisanie zemli
Kamchatki", an abridged version of which was translated by James
Grieve, MD in the 1760's as "The history of Kamtschatka, and the
Kurilski Islands, with the countries adjacent". From a brief search,
it would appear that there is a copy (original) of that one in
Madison, if your interest rises to that level! The 1972 translation
is more widely available (library-wise, that is, including UW-
Milwaukee) and is probably much easier to read.

Good to know. Thanks.

You needed a few more items for your "to read" list anyhow, right?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, sure, I'm still acquiring real paper and ink books at about 6 or 8
times the rate that I can read them, and the on line crap just for the
"Forgotten Treasures" series alone (over one hundred titles, to date) is
already more than I'll read (let alone assess and process) in a
lifetime.....but hey, who knows when the well will run dry.....right?


Wolfgang