When to drive?

The date for my annual trek to Altmar is approaching; but #1 offspring has
managed to royally screw up the planning. Okay, his college classes on
Monday morning are an acceptable reason to push the trip forward a day, no
problem. Lodging reservations were revised, and all is well.

Then there was this speeding ticket. He got PBJ, but on the condition he
complete a "Driver Improvement Program". So he loses the notification from
the MVA until the only possible way he can avoid a license suspension is to
take the class on the night we're scheduled to leave. So, instead of making
Altmar by midnight, we're looking at not even leaving until at least 10 p.m.
Nuts.

So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours sleep
here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half day of
fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide which is
the lesser of the two evils.

Joe F.

bOn Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:47:24 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

The date for my annual trek to Altmar is approaching; but #1 offspring has
managed to royally screw up the planning. Okay, his college classes on
Monday morning are an acceptable reason to push the trip forward a day, no
problem. Lodging reservations were revised, and all is well.

Then there was this speeding ticket. He got PBJ, but on the condition he
complete a "Driver Improvement Program". So he loses the notification from
the MVA until the only possible way he can avoid a license suspension is to
take the class on the night we're scheduled to leave. So, instead of making
Altmar by midnight, we're looking at not even leaving until at least 10 p.m.
Nuts.

So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours sleep
here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half day of
fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide which is
the lesser of the two evils.

Joe F.

Um, 'tripper seems to be politely saying that which I'll not so
delicately trod...

IOW, he ****ed up, lucked out, ****ed up the luck-out, and now, you're
wondering how to accommodate your schedule around his irresponsible
double-play...OK...I'm curious - how are you planning to rationalize
(with a heavy dose on the "ration") that he's going to learn a
motherflockin' thing from this...? Why not just call wayno and fire up
the checkbook, retainer-wise? You asked for opinions, so here's mine:
He's a college kid who got caught improperly operating a what amounts to
a deadly weapon, not some toddler who spilled his milk. Leave it to him
to figure things out, and if he's not set and legal to leave when
planned, tough **** for him.

HTH,
R

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:47:24 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

The date for my annual trek to Altmar is approaching; but #1 offspring has
managed to royally screw up the planning. Okay, his college classes on
Monday morning are an acceptable reason to push the trip forward a day, no
problem. Lodging reservations were revised, and all is well.

Then there was this speeding ticket. He got PBJ, but on the condition he
complete a "Driver Improvement Program". So he loses the notification from
the MVA until the only possible way he can avoid a license suspension is to
take the class on the night we're scheduled to leave. So, instead of making
Altmar by midnight, we're looking at not even leaving until at least 10 p.m.
Nuts.

So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours sleep
here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half day of
fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide which is
the lesser of the two evils.

Joe F.

Ah - so you already threw out The Third Evil: throttling said son and leaving
him behind ;-)

If you trust son to share the driving - and he still has a functional licence
- I'd say go with The Second Evil and try to nap in the car...

/daytripper (we'll likely catch you at lunch)

"rb608" wrote in message
news:03XOi.8776$br2.8395@trndny03...
The date for my annual trek to Altmar is approaching; but #1 offspring has
managed to royally screw up the planning. Okay, his college classes on
Monday morning are an acceptable reason to push the trip forward a day, no
problem. Lodging reservations were revised, and all is well.

Then there was this speeding ticket. He got PBJ, but on the condition he
complete a "Driver Improvement Program". So he loses the notification
from the MVA until the only possible way he can avoid a license suspension
is to take the class on the night we're scheduled to leave. So, instead
of making Altmar by midnight, we're looking at not even leaving until at
least 10 p.m. Nuts.

So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours
sleep here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half
day of fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide
which is the lesser of the two evils.

Joe F.

I'd be more concerned that the court gave your son a Peanut Butter Jelly
(PBJ) sandwich and not the customary Prayer for Judgement Continued (PJC).

Op

rb608 typed:
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So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours
sleep here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a
half day of fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying
to decide which is the lesser of the two evils.

Door number two, Monty.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

rb608 wrote:
...
So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours sleep
here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half day of
fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide which is
the lesser of the two evils.

If it was me I'd get up early and drive in the morning. I
don't usually fish until after brunch anyway and I'd rather
miss a half day of fishing than start a vacation wiped out.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"rb608" wrote in
news:03XOi.8776$br2.8395@trndny03:

The date for my annual trek to Altmar is approaching; but #1 offspring
has managed to royally screw up the planning. Okay, his college
classes on Monday morning are an acceptable reason to push the trip
forward a day, no problem. Lodging reservations were revised, and all
is well.

Then there was this speeding ticket. He got PBJ, but on the condition
he complete a "Driver Improvement Program". So he loses the
notification from the MVA until the only possible way he can avoid a
license suspension is to take the class on the night we're scheduled
to leave. So, instead of making Altmar by midnight, we're looking at
not even leaving until at least 10 p.m. Nuts.

So here's the question. It's a 6-hour drive; interstates all the way.
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours
sleep here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a
half day of fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying
to decide which is the lesser of the two evils.

Joe F.



I'd go without him.

--
Scott
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On Oct 9, 11:58 pm, daytripper wrote:
Ah - so you already threw out The Third Evil: throttling said son and leaving
him behind ;-)

Yeah, it's only a few hours, the fish will wait.

On Oct 9, 10:47 pm, "rb608" wrote:
Would you leave at 10 & arrive dead tired at 4 a.m. & try to fish on a
couple hours sleep (assuming you survive the trip) or get a few hours sleep
here, get up at 0-dark thirty & drive in the morning, missing a half day of
fishing? There's really no good answer here, I'm trying to decide which is
the lesser of the two evils.


Hmmm. To tell you the truth, I had been leaning toward the former,
but the responses are overwhelmingly for the latter. I'll have to
think about this.

I'll add to the background that I really don't need to catch fish all
day for three days. Offspring OTOH really loves this way more that I
expected him to, and at this point, probably has more fun than I.
Also, my BFB will be there a day earlier, and, if Offspring sleeps on
the way up, he can get up and fish with BFB while I catch some morning
zzz.

Get the car loaded early nap from 6pm til 11pm drink coffee take a
dump leave by midnight.........But as punishment make son prepare all
meals cook cleanup and generaly be the camp bitch thats the least he
can do for the hit your insurance rate is going to take..............