Fly Fishing Canoe

On Oct 15, 8:40 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
riverman wrote:
wrote:
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I'm looking at a 17 footer that is stable, light and capable of being
a tandem OR a solo canoe. Have any of you had experience (or heard
good or bad) about the Souris River Canoes? I'm looking at the
"Quetico 17". ...

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For the intermediate caster/paddler, then you will need to compromise
somewhere....something flat bottomed (so it won't tilt side to side),
with little rocker (so it won't twist around), fairly long, in the 17
foot range (anything longer is a bear to paddle, anything shorter is
skittish to stand in), and BEAMY (that means wide...makes it more
stable). A flat-bottomed, rockerless, beamy 17 foot boat won't be a
Maserati on the water, but it will satisfy your 'peaceful flycasting'
requirement and still be paddleable. ...

I agree with everything except the 17' length. A 17' tandem
is more canoe than I care to paddle solo, I wouldn't buy a
tandem canoe much over 16' for solo paddling/fishing. Souris
River makes nice boats and if you have to have a foreign-made
boat instead of a better quality boat made in Winona, Minnesota
USA then I'd go with the Quetico 16 instead of the Quetico 17.

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Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, I agree that there's some discussion on the 16' vs 17' length to
be had. I find a 16' boat a tad on the crowded side for tandem
tripping, but a 17' is certainly a bit long for a solo boat (although
my first love was a Blue Hole 17A that I put a lot of solo miles on).
I think the OP should put a lot of thought into how much solo vs
tandem paddling he is truly planning to do, and with how much gear.

--riverman

Dave,

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:02:31 -0000, mdk77
wrote:

I think this canoe would be great for the places I fish around here in
Central Illinois -- and be easy to take on trips out-of-state.

Let me know if there is something else worth considering in a fly
fishing canoe. Thanks.

Here's the canoe I use:

http://www.greatcanadian.com/canoes_classic.html

I have the Voyageur model. Scroll about halfway down the page.

Steve Thomas

On Oct 15, 11:23 am, (Steve Thomas) wrote:
Dave,

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:02:31 -0000, mdk77
wrote:



I think this canoe would be great for the places I fish around here in
Central Illinois -- and be easy to take on trips out-of-state.

Let me know if there is something else worth considering in a fly
fishing canoe. Thanks.

Here's the canoe I use:

http://www.greatcanadian.com/canoes_classic.html

I have the Voyageur model. Scroll about halfway down the page.

Steve Thomas

That is a beautiful canoe.

"Bob Weiske" wrote in message
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I've enjoyed one of these for years of lake fly fishing in the Sierra:
http://www.pokeboat.com/

Bob Weiske, long time lurker

Nice pokeboat,
I just pulled up the site. 23 lbs is pretty light.
-tom

On Oct 15, 10:36 am, riverman wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:40 pm, Ken Fortenberry



wrote:
riverman wrote:
wrote:
...
I'm looking at a 17 footer that is stable, light and capable of being
a tandem OR a solo canoe. Have any of you had experience (or heard
good or bad) about the Souris River Canoes? I'm looking at the
"Quetico 17". ...

...
For the intermediate caster/paddler, then you will need to compromise
somewhere....something flat bottomed (so it won't tilt side to side),
with little rocker (so it won't twist around), fairly long, in the 17
foot range (anything longer is a bear to paddle, anything shorter is
skittish to stand in), and BEAMY (that means wide...makes it more
stable). A flat-bottomed, rockerless, beamy 17 foot boat won't be a
Maserati on the water, but it will satisfy your 'peaceful flycasting'
requirement and still be paddleable. ...

I agree with everything except the 17' length. A 17' tandem
is more canoe than I care to paddle solo, I wouldn't buy a
tandem canoe much over 16' for solo paddling/fishing. Souris
River makes nice boats and if you have to have a foreign-made
boat instead of a better quality boat made in Winona, Minnesota
USA then I'd go with the Quetico 16 instead of the Quetico 17.

--
Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, I agree that there's some discussion on the 16' vs 17' length to
be had. I find a 16' boat a tad on the crowded side for tandem
tripping, but a 17' is certainly a bit long for a solo boat (although
my first love was a Blue Hole 17A that I put a lot of solo miles on).
I think the OP should put a lot of thought into how much solo vs
tandem paddling he is truly planning to do, and with how much gear.

--riverman

Probably 75% of the time I'd be tandem. I wouldn't be hauling much
gear either. Most of the time (not all, but mostly) I'd be fishing
small ponds, lakes and rivers around here. There is one larger lake
that I would fish some (Ken it would be Lake Evergreen). Even on
vacation I wouldn't be tripping, but just fishing during the day. I do
want something light that I can easily carry in to the remote places
that I fish around here. I "get it" that the canoe would need to be a
very stable design, rather than one with a lot of rocker or one that
is meant for speed -- and not for fishing. My brother-in-law has a
Wenonah, so I will definitely consider going that route.

- Dave K.

On Oct 15, 8:40 am, Ken Fortenberry
I agree with everything except the 17' length. A 17' tandem
is more canoe than I care to paddle solo,

YMMV, but Ken's probably right on this one. Although I've never
fished out of it (not sure why not), I have an Old Town Discovery 174
that's stable as all hell. It's a barge to paddle, though.

It's a great "family" canoe, and if that's your primary usage or
excuse, it's a fine boat for the money; but as a solo craft, sheesh.
It's too beamy to paddle from amidships; but a bag 'o rocks in the
front seat works great.

Joe F.

On Oct 15, 12:23 pm, (Steve Thomas) wrote:

Here's the canoe I use:

http://www.greatcanadian.com/canoes_classic.html

I have the Voyageur model. Scroll about halfway down the page.

Wow. Never thought a wooden canoe would be that light- 57 pounds.
That's actually lighter than my Wenonah.

But here's another (qualified*) vote for Wenonah's Adirondak. I sure
like mine. And it's eggplant color is nearly as nice as that natural
cedar. :-)

Bill

*qualified because I've only owned it a few months and have paddled it
but a half-dozen times. I've never stood to fish in a canoe, but
rather remain kneeling or seated.

"rw" wrote in message
m...

I hate the idea of fishing in a canoe by myself, without another paddler
to keep it in place and oriented in the wind to where I want to cast. I
far prefer a pontoon boat that I can control with both oars AND fins. The
oars get you to where you want to go and the fins keep you where you want
to be and facing in the direction you want to face.

I've fished in one-man kayaks in the Florida Keys and in Belize. Same
problem. Hated it.

Ditto, canoes and kayaks. Both are abominable platforms to fish from. Even
with someone else along to paddle, a canoe is still fairly miserable.

Don't know squat about pontoons.

Belly boats are great.

Wolfgang

Steve Thomas wrote:

Here's the canoe I use:

http://www.greatcanadian.com/canoes_classic.html

I have the Voyageur model. Scroll about halfway down the page.

Nice boat. Here's the tandem tripper I use for solo paddling
and fishing.

http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&i...73&pid=5896861

It's a Kedros Navigator 16. The Navigator 16 is very much like
the Wenonah Adirondack in design except, of course, the layup
is cedar strip instead of glas or royalex.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken,

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:34:47 -0500, Ken Fortenberry

Nice boat. Here's the tandem tripper I use for solo paddling
and fishing.

http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&i...73&pid=5896861

Nice boat :-)

Steve Thomas