Question about foam fly fishing.

First I want to say hello to all of you roffians.

I will just start with a little presentation as I am new to this NG.

I am lurking on this group episodically since 1 year now.
I am living in France, and am quite newbie to flyfishing, although I
went trough my first season quite successfully.
I fish trout since I am 5 or 6, but with other techniques.
I have to say I was always interested in fly fishing, but I never dare
go into it until last year.
But since last year all my rods but the fly rod never went out of the
garage...

So here is my question, I can see many foam patterns on the net.
Some are really impressionistics.
I know they can be real killers on bass, even if this is not my common
specy around here.
But what about fishing trout with them?
Arounf here I mainly have brown, and some rainbows, but rainbows are
mainly introduced to help with the fishing pressur.

I tried the experience to tie 2 of them, one in foam, the other with
Pheasant biots and Helk hairs.
The "natural one" made some brown go on it (without taking), maybe a
smaller pattern would have been successfully catching.
The foam one even affraid them when sight fihing.

So my question is, do these foam fly catch trout?
If yes, can it be possible in some geographies they would catch and in
other just make the fish laugh?

And why?

Thanks for reading this long thread.

"Gilbert " wrote in news:473971f8$0$26677
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First I want to say hello to all of you roffians.


Welcome Gilbert, I am the first but there'll be others to answer that
question...yes, there are foam patterns that will take trout, cricket and
hopper patterns should be killers in summertime. That said, I am not a
trout fisher (warmwater fishies are my prey) But they are popular over
here, new patterns are showing up all the time in my FlyTying magazines.
It is my belief that trout are trout wherever in the world you find them,
(OK,I read that in a book once) you only need to present to them what they
are used to seeing in the way of floating "bugs" during the proper time of
year. Others here are way more knowledgeable about trout so I'll get off my
soapbox and exit stage right...

Frank Sr.
where's our resident Kiwi when we need him?

First I want to say hello to all of you roffians.
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Hi Gilbert - welcome!

So here is my question, I can see many foam patterns on the net.
Some are really impressionistics.
I know they can be real killers on bass, even if this is not my common
specy around here.
But what about fishing trout with them?

As Frank said, hoppers work well during certain times of the year. I also
carry a few mayfly patterns with foam bodies. Be sure to get the closed-cell
foam if you want them to maintain their bouyancy without having to squeeze
out the water every few casts.

PS: Don't let Wayne Knight catch you with these flies. He gets really cranky
about foam. ;-)
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TL,
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"Gilbert " wrote in news:473971f8$0$26677
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First I want to say hello to all of you roffians.

I will just start with a little presentation as I am new to this NG.

I am lurking on this group episodically since 1 year now.
I am living in France, and am quite newbie to flyfishing, although I
went trough my first season quite successfully.
I fish trout since I am 5 or 6, but with other techniques.
I have to say I was always interested in fly fishing, but I never dare
go into it until last year.
But since last year all my rods but the fly rod never went out of the
garage...

So here is my question, I can see many foam patterns on the net.
Some are really impressionistics.
I know they can be real killers on bass, even if this is not my common
specy around here.
But what about fishing trout with them?
Arounf here I mainly have brown, and some rainbows, but rainbows are
mainly introduced to help with the fishing pressur.

I tried the experience to tie 2 of them, one in foam, the other with
Pheasant biots and Helk hairs.
The "natural one" made some brown go on it (without taking), maybe a
smaller pattern would have been successfully catching.
The foam one even affraid them when sight fihing.

So my question is, do these foam fly catch trout?
If yes, can it be possible in some geographies they would catch and in
other just make the fish laugh?

And why?

Thanks for reading this long thread.

Skip Morris has one book with many foam flies, suitable for many
different species.

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Scott
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On 13 Nov, 10:43, "Gilbert " wrote:

So my question is, do these foam fly catch trout?
If yes, can it be possible in some geographies they would catch and in
other just make the fish laugh?

And why?

Thanks for reading this long thread.

Some are very good indeed for trout. You might like to have a look at
some of these;

http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/ssmaterials/index1.html

http://business.virgin.net/british.c...lackbeetle.htm

http://www.creelflyfishing.com/tenne...rout_flies.htm

http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/hshopper/

This ant pattern has been very successful for me;

http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/ant/

This popper works well for rainbows;

http://www.flytyingworld.com/PagesG/...oam_popper.htm

You can find many good foam flies here;

http://www.ultimateflytying.com/FoamFlies.htm

TL
MC

Hey Foam man,
I've tied a few of the foam patterns. I've had success with the foam
beelte. I prefer to tie a dubbed body for my ant patterns. Foam can be
used to make the post on some parachute emergers. I don't know about
France, but a cheap source of foam here is Walmart where it is sold in
sheets for kids projects. I've also seen and article that used a
leather punch to cut pieces of foam from cheap flip-flops. Good luck,
Frogge.


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frogge wrote:
Hey Foam man,
I've tied a few of the foam patterns. I've had success with the foam
beelte. I prefer to tie a dubbed body for my ant patterns. Foam can be
used to make the post on some parachute emergers. I don't know about
France, but a cheap source of foam here is Walmart where it is sold in
sheets for kids projects. I've also seen and article that used a
leather punch to cut pieces of foam from cheap flip-flops. Good luck,
Frogge.


Hello frogge.

And thanks to all of you.
Yes, I have also beetles and ants(winged)
These fish well at summer time.

I have tied e serie of winged ant on caddis hook #18 and #20 for
altitude lakes, and they fish.
Caddis hook is interesting because it make a bended body like a
dead/sunk ant. (I stole this pattern from a notorious tier somewhere on
the web)

But my full foam hopper made no success.
A good friend of mine says the foam colors are too flashy.
I should only retain yellow foam for the abdomen.

You are right cheap source for the foam, is creation stores (like
scrapbooking), also an excellent source for many other stuff for tying.

On Nov 14, 6:49 am, "Gilbert " wrote:
frogge wrote:
Hey Foam man,
I've tied a few of the foam patterns. I've had success with the foam
beelte. I prefer to tie a dubbed body for my ant patterns. Foam can be
used to make the post on some parachute emergers. I don't know about
France, but a cheap source of foam here is Walmart where it is sold in
sheets for kids projects. I've also seen and article that used a
leather punch to cut pieces of foam from cheap flip-flops. Good luck,
Frogge.

Hello frogge.

And thanks to all of you.
Yes, I have also beetles and ants(winged)
These fish well at summer time.

I have tied e serie of winged ant on caddis hook #18 and #20 for
altitude lakes, and they fish.
Caddis hook is interesting because it make a bended body like a
dead/sunk ant. (I stole this pattern from a notorious tier somewhere on
the web)

But my full foam hopper made no success.
A good friend of mine says the foam colors are too flashy.
I should only retain yellow foam for the abdomen.

You are right cheap source for the foam, is creation stores (like
scrapbooking), also an excellent source for many other stuff for tying.

Your right about the grasshoppers. IMO the reasons may be that people
tie them to bigger than corresponding conventional patterns. In
addition most creeks and rivers are lower in grasshoper season.
Bigger flys in low water lower your chances unless there are some
monsters about.
If your looking for material don't overlook the foam ear plugs. I
recycled some of mine and they work Ok on smallmouth. The colors are
limited to red, orange, yellow, green and mottled green and white.