straightening leaders

"mdk77" wrote in message
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On Nov 16, 11:53 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"mdk77" wrote in message

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On Nov 16, 8:35 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"mdk77" wrote in message

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Now, I just need to try that hot-underwear trick that Tom talked
about....

It was actually my friends trick/idea.
I only suggested to him to tie on a Pink Bunny Leech.
-tom

I tried to call Rio today and explain the "trick" to them, but they
hung up on me :-(

Well it is a rather risky procedure, and if not done correctly, one could
choke the chicken depending on the size of the coils.
-tom

Yeah, maybe Rio sees it as a potential liability issue if they
endorsed the procedure.

And with the "boiling" procedure, hey, a guy could lose an eye if it's
not done right...


I've seen that before, had a patch and was talking like a parrot.
-tom

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:57:48 -0800 (PST), mdk77
wrote:

It just goes to show they don't know much about leader
straightening after all.

Dave, listen to the sane folks on this newsgroup. *Millions* of
flyfishermen and women have been straightening leaders *with their
hands* for the past 60 years. Hot water and other tricks works
because they supply heat, just like the friction you supply with your
hands. A leader, when coiled again, will still have coiled memory
regardless your boiling/hair dryer/hand friction. If you want to be a
successful fly fisher, I suggest you not look for little tricks, but
do it the old fashioned way, with your hands. If you can't straighten
it with your hands then there is something intrinsicly wrong with the
leader. And if you do not learn how to straighten it with your hands,
you may find yourself streamside with a coiled leader and no way to
straighten it short of building a fire and boiling the thing. In 60
years of fly fishing, I have NEVER failed to straighten a leader with
my hands, and that includes *winter* fishing in the snow, and fishing
the Big Horn with 104 degree temps.

No ****ing contest here, Dave. Listen to what the experienced fly
fishers on these pages say. If you can't do it by hand, well........

Really!

Dave

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:11:16 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I've seen that before, had a patch and was talking like a parrot.
-tom

Don't you make fun of us Pirates. For shame! d;o)

On Nov 16, 2:54 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:57:48 -0800 (PST), mdk77

wrote:
It just goes to show they don't know much about leader
straightening after all.

Dave, listen to the sane folks on this newsgroup. *Millions* of
flyfishermen and women have been straightening leaders *with their
hands* for the past 60 years. Hot water and other tricks works
because they supply heat, just like the friction you supply with your
hands. A leader, when coiled again, will still have coiled memory
regardless your boiling/hair dryer/hand friction. If you want to be a
successful fly fisher, I suggest you not look for little tricks, but
do it the old fashioned way, with your hands. If you can't straighten
it with your hands then there is something intrinsicly wrong with the
leader. And if you do not learn how to straighten it with your hands,
you may find yourself streamside with a coiled leader and no way to
straighten it short of building a fire and boiling the thing. In 60
years of fly fishing, I have NEVER failed to straighten a leader with
my hands, and that includes *winter* fishing in the snow, and fishing
the Big Horn with 104 degree temps.

No ****ing contest here, Dave. Listen to what the experienced fly
fishers on these pages say. If you can't do it by hand, well........

Really!

Dave

I "get it" Dave. I'm just having some fun. You gotta admit some of
the stuff on ROFF is pretty funny. The "leader through the underwear"
story had me roaring (I'm was at my computer at work when I read that
and I'm certain my co-workers thought I'd gone over the deep end).
Life is short. I like to laugh and have fun. I never want to be one
of those folks who take themselves too seriously. What fun is
that? :-)

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:00:15 -0800 (PST), mdk77
wrote:

The "leader through the underwear"
story had me roaring

What? Now your laughing about my underwear?

Harumph!

d'o)

"mdk77" wrote in message
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On Nov 16, 2:54 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:57:48 -0800 (PST), mdk77

wrote:
It just goes to show they don't know much about leader
straightening after all.

Dave, listen to the sane folks on this newsgroup. *Millions* of
flyfishermen and women have been straightening leaders *with their
hands* for the past 60 years. Hot water and other tricks works
because they supply heat, just like the friction you supply with your
hands. A leader, when coiled again, will still have coiled memory
regardless your boiling/hair dryer/hand friction. If you want to be a
successful fly fisher, I suggest you not look for little tricks, but
do it the old fashioned way, with your hands. If you can't straighten
it with your hands then there is something intrinsicly wrong with the
leader. And if you do not learn how to straighten it with your hands,
you may find yourself streamside with a coiled leader and no way to
straighten it short of building a fire and boiling the thing. In 60
years of fly fishing, I have NEVER failed to straighten a leader with
my hands, and that includes *winter* fishing in the snow, and fishing
the Big Horn with 104 degree temps.

No ****ing contest here, Dave. Listen to what the experienced fly
fishers on these pages say. If you can't do it by hand, well........

Really!

Dave

I "get it" Dave. I'm just having some fun. You gotta admit some of
the stuff on ROFF is pretty funny. The "leader through the underwear"
story had me roaring (I'm was at my computer at work when I read that
and I'm certain my co-workers thought I'd gone over the deep end).
Life is short. I like to laugh and have fun. I never want to be one
of those folks who take themselves too seriously. What fun is
that? :-)


After fishing on the Trinity River that cold winter day, we had a few beers
at the La Garange, the local Tavern. The bartender happened to be an
angler. She was tall and quite attractive, had a short skirt on. I told her
about the body leader straightening method my friend used, passing it
through his underwear and down his right pant leg. My friend at that time
was chugging down a beer, when she blurts out; "I love that technique, but I
don't wear underwear!" I swear, my friend launched a mouth full of beer
across the room, was a pretty funny sight.
-tom

On Nov 16, 8:57 am, mdk77 wrote:
On Nov 16, 8:35 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

"mdk77" wrote in message

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Now, I just need to try that hot-underwear trick that Tom talked
about....

It was actually my friends trick/idea.
I only suggested to him to tie on a Pink Bunny Leech.
-tom

I tried to call Rio today and explain the "trick" to them, but they
hung up on me :-(

I think too many ROFF folks have called in the past 24 hours to
explain ways to straighten their leaders (some unspeakable things
too!).

They don't want to hear about boiling, hot underwear or turkey giblet
tricks et. al. It just goes to show they don't know much about leader
straightening after all.

Which reminds me. The folks at ROFF ought to band together and author
a book about "little known helpful facts" for fly fishermen. I've
been on ROFF for little more than a year and am amazed at the things I
read here daily. We could even throw in some of the excellent
recipe's too.

I think it would sell very well.

Maby it should be a cookbook with fishting tips inbetween recipes.

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:33:14 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

After fishing on the Trinity River that cold winter day, we had a few beers
at the La Garange, the local Tavern. The bartender happened to be an
angler. She was tall and quite attractive, had a short skirt on. I told her
about the body leader straightening method my friend used, passing it
through his underwear and down his right pant leg. My friend at that time
was chugging down a beer, when she blurts out; "I love that technique, but I
don't wear underwear!" I swear, my friend launched a mouth full of beer
across the room, was a pretty funny sight.
-tom

Now *that* is a funny fishing story.